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Chair:  Robert DieterleViet NguyenAnupam Goel

Scribe: Dana Marcelonis
 

Attendees

Present

Name

Affiliation

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Enablecare
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Stratametrics
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Point of Care Partners
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BCBSAL
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Emily Calvert

CMS
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Erica Ross

CMS
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Heather McComasAMA
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Optum
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Kelly Anderson

BCBSAL
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InterSystems
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Mark Mundt

InterSystems
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Megan SoccorsoCigna
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Mike Funk

Humana
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Nancy SpectorAMA
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Terrence CunninghamAMA
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Tori WillowsWellcare
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BCBSFL
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Aim/ Anthem
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Marci Maisano

Cigna
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Edifecs
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Edifecs
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United Healthcare
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Anthem
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Christy Dodson
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BCBSAL
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Laura Hoffman
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WPS Health Solutions
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Optum
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Edifecs
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CMS
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CAQH
  •  
Raj
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Ray WilkersonScope Info Tech
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BCBST
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Taha AnjarwallaCAQH
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Tom
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Sonja Ziegler
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Intersystems
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Nandini GangulyEMDI/ Scope Info Tech
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BCBSM
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Kasi
  •  
EMDI Team
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Anthem
  •  
Bart CarlsonAzuba
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Cambia
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Duane WalkerBCBSM
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InterSystems
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Tibco
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Louis BedorCognosante
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Anthem
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CMS
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CMS
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IBC
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Anthem
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Rian
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Palmetto gba
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Sandeep
  •  
Sreekanth PuramMettle Solutions
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Allscripts
  •  
James Gallagher Jr.Premera
  •  
Joseph Figueroa
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Tony LittleOptum
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Pallavi TalekarEMDI/ Scope Info Tech
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Thomas KesslerCMS
  •  
Todd Omundson
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ZeOmega
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Emily TenEyckCAQH
  •  
Mark Taylor
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Julia SkapikCognitive Medicine
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Michael BrodyCME Online
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Michelle ZuttermanHumana
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Surescripts
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Laurie DarstMayo
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Marianna SinghCAQH
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Labcorp
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Mariana SinghCAQH
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Madhuri
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Bob THompson
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Ben LangleyMITRE
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Michelle PriestAllscripts
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Michael Hurley
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Cedars-Sinai
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Roland Gamache
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Dave HCRT INC
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Barbara WoodPNC
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Padma KondaveetiMettles
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Unknown User (meryl_bloomrosen)Premier
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Cambia
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Judy Williamson
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Matthew Maurer
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Smitha HarishMettles
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BC Idaho
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Michael LunzerAltegra Health
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Rush
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Shilesh NairGdit
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Steve Favilla
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Optum
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Texas Health
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Keya ShahCasnet
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Epic
  •  
Josh Lamb
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Edifecs
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Max MD
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Allen SaundersChange Healthcare
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Molly Malavey
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Rich BlochLumedic
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Thomas GrannanAzuba
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Beth ConnorCMS
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MA Health Data
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Kellie Ruff
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  •  
Mark Fleming
  •  
Kumar Elubandi

Present

Name

Affiliation

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Rachel GoldsteinCAQH
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Ralph Saint-PhardHealow
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Susan LestinaAHA
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Briana BarnesScope Info Tech
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Cerner
  •  
Cassandra Bell
  •  
Deepthi ReddyMettle Solutions
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Cognosante
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Humana
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Prashanth Golconda
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Rajesh GodavarthiMCG
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Rim Cothren
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Scott LawrenceCMS
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Chris JonesHumana
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Christina BorgLumeris
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Julie MaasEMR Direct
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Kathleen Connor
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Matt ReidAMA
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Mike BerkmanCoverMyMeds
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Monse SerenilHumad
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Rian RaineyCoverMyMeds
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Sandra StuartKP
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Sheryl TurneyAnthem
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Wanda Govan-JenkinsHHS
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Chris HutchinsonCoverMyMeds
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Anna MeisheidCMS
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Cyrus PeyrovianFastAuth
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Janice BakosAetna
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SureScripts
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Gevity
  •  
Melanie JonesCMS
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eClinicalWorks
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Tammy SchreinerWPS Health Solutions
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Amy PetersonHumana
  •  
Dave Trotter, MD
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BCBSIL
  •  
Renee FullerIBX
  •  
Helina Gebremariam
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Cambia
  •  
Intepro
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Carradora
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MaxMD
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Cindy Monarch BCBSM
  •  
Dawn PerreaultBCBSM
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Cognizant
  •  
Mitre
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Missy BoserSurescripts
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CAQH
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Phranil MehtaeClinicalWorks
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Dylan TuggleBCBST
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JPSys
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Mario JarrinChange Healthcare
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Jim AdamsonArkansas Blue Cross
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Brian PoteetBCBST
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Tony LaurieNoridian
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Optum
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Bonnie SirottZeOmega
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MCG
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ESAC
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Geeta KrishnanEdifecs
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Katherine LuskChildrens
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Michael NovalesBCBSIL
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Tracey McCutcheonKPMG
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Anupam ThakurBCBS FL
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Cathy PlattnerKP
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Srinivasarao EadaraesMD
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Availity
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ZeOmega
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Dennis ZanettiNantHealth
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Haris BegCambia
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Kishore MetlaMettle Solutions
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Sunitha Godavarthi
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C-HIT
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SriniesMD
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Anthem
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Kumar SourabhGRSI
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Julia ChanCW Global Consult
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Ric LightHumana
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UHC
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Anil VezendlaMCG
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Ken LordBook Zurman
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Scott Robertson


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Christopher GraconIndependent Health
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Gary GryanMitre
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Mitre
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Marty StaszakVoluware
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Stephen ReckfordGRSI
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Joe HamiltonUnity Point
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Dave Foster
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Betty SullivanAllscripts
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Cigna
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Juzer KhorakiwallaUHC
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Unknown User (patricekuppe)Surescripts
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Express-Scripts
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Celine LefebvreAMA
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Eshaa DhalleClinicalWorks
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Aakash DeliwalaeClinicalWorks
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Chris JohnsonBCBSAL
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Megan RileyMITRE
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Crystal HyattTransunion
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Epic
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AEGIS
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BCBSM
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Pawan RegmiRush
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Rajesh GarlapatiRush
  •  
Rush
  •  
Scott HoltItiliti Health
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Cigna
  •  
Cigna
  •  
UHC
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Steve KirbyCoverMyMeds
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Neena DakuaWPS Health
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Evicore
  •  
Med Allies
  •  
Laurie Henson
  •  
Healow
  •  
Bapi Beshara
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David DelanoMA Health Data
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  •  
Vishnu
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Carmela A. CoudercMITRE
  •  
Daniel C
  •  
Swapnil
  •  

  •  
Mona Chandrapal


Agenda Topics

Agenda Outline

Agenda Item

Meeting Minutes from Discussion

Decision Link(if not child)
ManagementReview ANSI Anti-Trust Policy



Reminder: conference call structure & name changes
  1. Burden Reduction (CRD/DTR/PAS) Implementer Support Call - Wednesday, DTR time slot (11at ET)
  2. Burden Reduction (CRD/DTR/PAS) Supplemental Examples - Friday, PAS time slot (3pm ET)
  3. Burden Reduction (CRD/DTR/PAS) IG Updates/Future Requirements - call to be scheduled, Mondays at 1pm ET


HL7 Patient Access API Implementation Event, August 17-19 (Virtual)

Registration: https://www.hl7.org/events/fhir/implementation/2020/



HL7 Sept Connectathon, Sept 9-11 (Virtual)

Bring examples between Payer and EHR 

  • Complete example for Stress Echocardiogram - all the CQL, Questionnaires, etc.
  • Ventricular Assist Devices as the next example?

    • Scale?
    • Does it help other examples? (e.g., other implantable devices)
  • Reach out to Sreekanth Puramif you'd like to join the sub-group working on these examples (sreekanth.puram@mettles.com)
  • PAS only allows CPT, ICD-10, LOINC
    • SNOMED is not allowed in PAS
    • PAS as pass-through - could be any kind of format for attachments
      • Claim resource - CPT, ICD-10 for primary diagnosis and service/product being requested
      • Not much clinical information is being passed in the PAS IG
  • CodeX
    • FHIR Accelerator, led by MITRE, focused on oncology diagnosis and treatment
    • CodeX team would like to present an oncology scenario to this community and develop a CRD/DTR/PAS example 
    • Participants to reach out to utilization management colleagues who work with oncology to have them attend when we schedule this session


Further discussion on potentially updating the scope of DTR - Order Sign vs. Order Select
  • Recap from last week
    • Potential change in using CDS Hooks - Order Select and Order Sign
      • Order Sign is the most commonly used
      • If someone wants to use Order Select they also need to support Order Sign
      • Feedback from some providers that they'd like to use Order Select and not Order Sign because it fits into workflow - gives them better understanding of coverage, etc.
    • Order Sign is better fit to capture the data elements, but it's the final step in the process - feedback from some providers that they would like to know that something is not covered earlier in the process
  • AMA concerns
    • Provider should have ultimate option
    • Potential noise with information being inserted into workflow through Order Select
  • Order Sign triggers after you've signed multiple orders, scripts, etc.
  • Order Select doesn't notify you if something is missing, because user might not have finished entering all the information yet
  • CDS hooks typically show up as messages at the bottom of the screen that user can choose to ignore - nothing pops up to interrupt the provider's workflow
  • Implementation of Order Select service and Order Sign service is not significantly different
    • Info that gets passed on is different
    • From payer implementation standpoint there should be no issue
    • It's dependent upon provider's preference
    • Proposal that payers SHOULD support Order Select and SHALL support Order Sign?
      • Could be implemented as same module, but need a flag to know which one is which so that you don't trigger a message too early (e.g., info isn't missing, the user just isn't done yet)
    • EHR doesn't make filter decisions on what messages to show or not - it's up to the payer to filter depending on whether it's an Order Select or Order Sign
  • Concern that what providers want may not align with IG - payers might say vendor should align with IG, but providers might ask for something different
  • Is there a way to indicate what specific information is needed to determine that a prior auth is required?
    • CDS hook spec isn't going to help because it points to US Core
    • Payer community work underway - standardizing the set of data elements that providers might consider in evaluating whether prior auth is required
    • Need deeper integration of payer rules into EHR that isn't possible yet to achieve clinical decision support and not just prior authorization support
  • Originally proposing a change, but the group seems to be leaning towards leaving it the way it is


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 Adjournment

Adjourned at 4:01pm ET

Outline Reference

Supporting Document

Minute Approval



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