Chair: Russ Leftwich
Scribe: Jim McClay
CIC Thursday Call Information | Standing CIC and Project Calls |
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Time: 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada) To join the call, visit the Conference Calling Center or reference CIC e-mails | To sign up for calls, visit the Conference Calling CenterRegular CIC Calls: at 2:00 ET Second Thursday: Cancer Interoperability – All things Cancer (Breast Cancer, mCODE, plus Pain) Fourth Thursdays: All things Registries & HRex, VANGUARD Topic Calls: CA Interoperability: Every Wednesday 1000-1100 ET Breast Cancer: Every Wednesday: 2:00-3:00 p.m. ET HRex: In STU phase; no present calls. mCODE: (Cancer Interoperability Calls - Tuesday 2-3 PM ET) |
Agenda Topics
Agenda Item | Discussion and Responsibilities | Minutes and Decisions |
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Getting meeting started | ||
Minutes Approval (3 minutes) | Request to approve by consensus. | Today's Update: |
Project Proposals & Retiring Standards & E-votes (8 minutes) | Discuss active Project Proposals and Project Scope Statements (PSS) | Today's Update: EMS Project: EMS Project from NEMSIS - Voted in May to be reaffirmed. Found there were some changes to the spec since it was first made normative. Would like to update the version that is out there. Current request to approve the NIB to take the updated changes to ballot in January. Motion made to approve the NIB for this project made by Jay, 2nd by Kurt. Abstain: 0, Oppose: 0, Approve: 11. (Jay to come back with more at the next meeting) ICHOM: Project proposal has been submitted and is out for review right now. - PSS-1882Getting issue details... STATUS Will put a call on the CIC calendar after the proposal closes to discuss the proposal comments and move along the process. Past Update: ICHOM Presentation (30 Min): Plans for ICHOM Clinical Standard Sets on FHIR ( HL7 Council August 2021.pptx) See attached slides Q1: Coverage - country map Q2: OMOP mapping from ICHOM data model Q3: First use case is breast cancer - how will this interdigitate with existing HL7 BC standards (mCode) - Bruce Bray notes significant overlap. Need to attempt to harmonize since already coded in EHR. Q4: Marti Velezis VANGUARD group checks on ICHOM. Looking for minimal core data sets. Different view on ICHOM standards. Scope of first FHIR IG - adding to existing IG to cover gap to include ICHOM standard. Next Step: set up harmonization call to Draft Project Scope Statement. Robert Dieterle suggests overlap with GRAVITY project common frameworks for quality and outcomes measures.
Vote on formation of new work group called "Human and Social Services Work Group" https://confluence.hl7.org/display/HL7/Human+and+Social+Services+Work+Group+Formation+Proposal Discussion without resolution
New PSS review/Vote (POLST Portable Medical Orders CDA IG) - PSS-1827Getting issue details... STATUS Bruce Bray moved to approve Vadim Peretokin Second Vote:10-0-0 Approved Notes Karen Thullner update on imaging. |
SECOND THURSDAY TOPICS | CANCER INTEROPERABILITY | |
Target Dates: | Today's Update:Block Vote 5. Block Vote 5: https://jira.hl7.org/issues/?filter=15618 FHIR-32839 https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-32839 Motion made by Sherita to approve the block - 2nd by Mark K, Abstain: 3; Opposes: 0; Approval = 8. Previous issues with item 32839 - team has decided this item is too specific for the mCODE work and will be dropping them from the mCODE spec. They are more radiology specific then oncology specific. Motion to approve the disposition of this item: Motion made by Saul, 2nd by Sherita - Abstain: 0, Oppose: 0; Approval = 11. Past Update: vote on Block Vote 2 please pull 32279 and 32281 and 32245 from this vote motion to approve the remaining items in Block Vote 2 made by Saul Kravitz, 2nd by Marti Velezis, ; abstain = 2, opposed = 0, approved =5. | |
Target Dates: Normative ballot: May 2022 Publication Request: Feb 2022 Receive ANSI approval/Project end: April 2022 | Today's Update: In the process of completing the last negative comments and those should be taken care of shortly. Need to clean up the terminology. Will make the next ballot on terminology. Looking to incorporate SOLOR. Integrate with SnoMED and LOINC. Currently all terminology is ad hoc. Past Update 1) mCODE STU2 Block Vote 4
Pulled FHIR-32836 from vote at this time.
Discussion of - FHIR-32836Getting issue details... STATUS : there is an issue with value set codes. Expect to return as part of a block vote. 2) Discussion of FHIR-32839 Saul KravitzModality and Technique Value Sets for Brachytherapy Treatment Phase, Radiotherapy Course... Combinations are to be enforced by invariants vs suggestion from David Pyle for a hierarchical value set (example: Purpose of Use value set)
Value set will be published in implementation guide and on HL7 terminology server. Value set maintenance as part of STU process. (Slide Deck) Sherita Alai Discussion of definitions and data sets concerning radiotherapy (part of mCODE).issue 1: Seeking clarification of difference between Modality and Technique and reasoning for 3 lists of values Martin von Siebenthal clarified differences between value sets for Brachytherapy and Teleradiotherapy. (Slide deck) compare to NCI CDE Public ID 7063723 (cdebrowser.nci.nih.gov) Brachytherapy techniques are a little different.
MOTION: Saul Kravitz Motion - FHIR 32839 "persuasive with modification - modification -provide clarity on radiation oncology terms with improved definitions."
Mark Kramer will followup | |
Target Dates: | Today's Update:
Past Update: SM called for attention to this at the recent NKBD towards getting implementors. Connect this project to the MCC eCare Plan project and their use case that could use Pain. | |
Target Dates: | Today's Update: No report Past Update: IG proposal vote needed Protocols for Clinical Registry Extraction and Data Submission Motion made to approve the IG proposal made by David P/2nd by Jimmy T. Abstain = 0; oppose = 0; approve 7 | |
Today's Update: No report Past Update: Lloyd Test McKenzie requests time on second Thursday agenda for update on HRex | ||
VANGUARD Next Target ballot could be an informative ballot Jan 22 | Today's Update: No report Past Update: Marti Velezis VANGUARD continues work on device related value sets. | |
ADMINISTRATIVE | ||
Administrative: Review of Agenda/Key HL7 Deadlines/Business Tasks
All HL7 Calendars (Confluence) New "HL7 Essentials" Confluence Page (5 minutes) | Reminder New CIC Meeting Structure
| Today's Update: Past Update Will target these dates for the topics, but will be flexible as needed for project deadlines. |
Notes Regarding Next Meeting | ||
Adjournment | Adjourn by consensus. | Adjourned at: |
Attendees:
Present | Name | Affiliation |
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X | Intermountain CIC Co-Chair | |
Intersystems CIC Co-Chair | ||
X | UNMC CIC Co-Chair | |
Jimmy Tcheng | Duke CIC Co-Chair | |
X | ||
Enable Care | ||
MaxMD | ||
X | Mitre | |
Altarum | ||
Stratametrics, LLC | ||
Mitre | ||
@Anita Walden | OHSU | |
Kevin Baskin | ||
FDA | ||
@Karen Thullner | ||
Audacious Inquiry | ||
@Michelle Barry | Da Vinci | |
Audacious Inquiry | ||
Michael Einkauf | Parexel International | |
MITRE | ||
X | Philips | |
Sherita Alai | NCI | |
Grade Stambaugh | ||
Stephanie Wissig | ||
ICHOM | ||
Brenda Duggan | guest | |
Janice Knable | guest | |
Martin Von Siebenthal | guest | |
Wendy Ver Hoef | Guest | |
kummerowas |