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| MEETING AGENDA Dated 2021-09-21 Reference IEEE 11073 / HL7 DEVICES – Version 1.0 |
Joint meeting of HL7 Devices (DEV) WG + IEEE EMBS 11073 PoCD + PHD WGs, Virtual Monday 2021/09/20 – Friday 2021/09/24 |
HL7 DEV WG Leadership: CO-CHAIR: TODD COOPER CO-CHAIR: CHRIS COURVILLE CO-CHAIR: JOHN GARGUILO CO-CHAIR: JOHN RHOADS CO-CHAIR: MARTIN HURRELL CO-CHAIR: JOHN WALSH CO-CHAIR: MARTIN ROSNER
IEEE 11073 SC Leadership: CHAIR: KEN FUCHS VICE-CHAIR: DAIDI ZHONG SECRETARY: STEVEN DAIN emb-11073-Listserv: emb-11073-sc@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG IEEE 11073 PoCD WG Leadership: CHAIR: STEFAN SCHLICHTING VICE-CHAIR: STEVEN DAIN SECRETARY: KONSTANTINOS MAKRODIMITRIS IEEE-SA Liason to PoCD: TOM THOMPSON 11073 PoCD Google Group: ieee-11073-pocd@googlegroups.com | todd@trustedsolutionsfoundry.com martinjhurrell@gmail.com Konstantinos.Makrodimitris@fda.hhs.gov | Location: Virtual (On-line Only) HL7 Site (September 2021) Working Group Registration and Information: September (Plenary) 2021 Working Group Meeting (Virtual Event) Whova App : DEV WG
Virtual Meetings Scheduled: Monday (HL7 Plenary - No DEV WG or IEEE PoCD Meetings) Tuesday(Q1 + Q2, 8 AM Start General Overview and 11073 Focus) Wednesday (Q1 + Q2 HL7 DEV Focus) Thursday (Q1 Joint w/ FHIR-I and O&O, Q2 hosting MHealth WG) Friday (Q1 + Q2 Gemini SDC/SDPi) Please see HL7 Guide for additional meeting information |
Host organization: ANSI - HL7 international - please register in advance on the web site (see HL7 Registration (Sept Plenary 2021 Working Group Meeting)) for details). | Host: ANSI - HL7 international |
Daily Schedule Overview
- We will be holding 2 sessions per day, mainly Q1 and Q2 Tuesday - Friday
Daily Schedule - NOTE that the meeting occurs virtually in the United States Eastern Time Zone
Quarter | US Eastern Time | West Coast US Time -3 Hours | UTC | Central Europe Time +6 Hours | Japan Time +13 Hours | Australia (Sidney) Time +14 Hours | |
General | 8:30 - 9:00 AM | HL7 General Session and Announcements Tuesday Thru Friday | |||||
Q1/2 | 9:00 - 12:30 PM | Plenary Meeting (Monday Only) | 6:00 - 9:30 AM | 1:00 - 4:30 PM | 3:00 - 6:30 PM | 10:00 PM - 1:30 AM | 11:00 PM - 2:30 AM |
Q1 | 9:00 - 10:30 AM | Joint w/ O&O WG Session (Thursday Only) Joint w/ FHIR-I WG Session (Thursday Only) | 6:00 - 7:30 AM | 1:00 - 2:30 PM | 3:00 - 4:30 PM | 10:00 - 11:30 PM | 11:00 PM - 12:30 AM |
Q1/Q2 IEEE PoCD WG Tuesday | 8:00 AM – 12:00 PM | Meeting Sessions Tuesday Only | 5:00 - 9:00 AM | 12:00 - 4:00 PM | 2:00 - 6:00 PM | 9:00 PM - 1:00 AM | 10:00 PM - 2:00 AM |
Q1 | 9:00 – 10:30 AM | Meeting Sessions Wednesday Thru Friday | 6:00 - 7:30 AM | 1:00 - 2:30 PM | 3:00 - 4:30 PM | 10:00 - 11:30 PM | 11:00 PM - 12:30 AM |
10:30 - 11:00 AM | Break | 7:30 - 8:00 AM | 2:30 - 3:00 PM | 4:30 - 5:00 PM | 11:30 PM - 12:00 AM | 12:30 - 1:00 AM | |
Q2 HL7 DEV WG | 11:00 AM – 12:30 PM | Meeting Sessions Wednesday Thru Friday | 8:00 - 9:30 AM | 3:00 - 4:30 PM | 5:00 - 6:30 PM | 12:00 - 1:30 AM | 1:00 - 2:30 AM |
12:30 - 1:00 PM | Lunch Break (if going to Q3) | 9:30 - 10:00 AM | 4:30 - 5:00 PM | 6:30 - 7:00 PM | 1:30 - 2:00 AM | 2:30 - 3:00 AM | |
Q3 | 1:00 – 3:00 PM | Meeting Session Open, or Joint WGs | 10:00 AM - 12:00 PM | 5:00 - 7:00 PM | 7:00 - 9:00 PM | 2:00 - 4:00 AM | 3:00 - 5:00 AM |
Q4 | 3:30 PM …. | Additional meeting after Q3 (if needed) | 12:30 PM ... | 7:30 PM... | 9:30 PM ... | 4:40 AM | 5:30 AM ... |
WebEx Information
- https://ieeesa.webex.com/ieeesa/j.php?MTID=med0e5d8362b2d4caa329de5de988fcd9
- Meeting number (access code): 2346 569 8933
Meeting password: sjM5xMTXE56
Recording Attendance:
Please Log September 2021 HL7 DEVICE and IEEE 11073 WG Attendance here
Agenda:
Abbreviations
Abbreviation | Definition |
---|---|
RI | Requirements Interoperability |
MC | Model-Centric (rather than document-centric) |
RR | Regulatory (submission) - Ready |
HL7 Plenary Meetings
Monday Q1 & Q2
- Plenary Meeting Agenda: 35th Annual Plenary Meeting
- Note: No IEEE or HL7 DEV meetings
- Monday A.M. - This is the annual HL7 Plenary meeting, so Monday A.M.'s sessions are focused on those sessions (not the DEV WG)
Note HL7-wide moment of silence for those who have passed in the past year.
IEEE EMB 11073 PoCD WG Meeting
Monday Q3 & Q4
- No Meetings
IEEE EMB 11073 PoCD WG Meeting
Tuesday Q1, Q2
Slides and other resources were uploads/archived in IEEE POCD imeet-central https://ieee-sa.imeetcentral.com/11073pocd/folder/WzIwLDEzNTI0ODc1XQ/
IEEE11073 POCD WG meeting (September 21, 2021) -Virtual/Draft agenda (8 to noon US ET -Eastern time))
08:00a | Welcome, Introductions, and Agenda Review [Steve/Kosta]
08:05a | IEEE Disclosures [Ken]
Call for Potential Essential Patents Holders. Please contact IEEE WG co-chairs with just name and affiliation.
IEEE Patent Policy - IEEE Patent Policy
IEEE-SA Copyright Policy - IEEE Copyright Policy
IEEE Meeting Conduct – IEEE Code of Conduct
IEEE Ethics Policy - IEEE Code of Ethics
08:15a | Agenda Review [Kosta]
08:25a | Review Previous Minutes and New Members[Kosta]
08:45a | 11073 SC Update [Ken]
08:50a | IEEE 11073 PARs, Projects, SDOs and Analytics [Tom, All]
IEEE reports, dates and stats (Tom) 15mins
9:15a | Other SDOs WGs eg AAMI, LOINC, ISO, IEC, SNOMED, IEEE 11073-PHD, FDA/DSAB, MDEPINET…(ALL) (Ray, Ken, Isabel, Martha)
- IEEE 11073 PHD Report-out (Ray Krasinski)
- ACOM (Abstract Content Model) and GHS (Generic Health Sensors) Goals (Ray Krasinski)
9:30a | Update ISO/TC 215 Remote Connected Care - Mobile Health (RCC-MH) project (Ken, Gora)
09:45a | IEEE 11073 SDC Update [Martin K.]
10:30a | Break
10:45a | IEEE 11073 Nomenclature Update [Paul]
11:30a | 11073 Stories/Pilots and Conformity and Regulatory track: IHE, ASCA, NIST/FDA, IMDRF (Kosta, John, Todd)
11:50a | Logistics next WG meeting, Additional topics for Friday morning?
12a Closing [Stefan/Kosta/Steve]
- CHAIR: STEFAN SCHLICHTING, PHD
- VICE-CHAIR: STEVEN DAIN, MD
- SECRETARY: KONSTANTINOS MAKRODIMITRIS, PHD
HL7 Devices (DEV) WG Meeting
9/22/2021 | Wednesday |
Q1 | 9:00–11:10 AM |
Break | 11:10 - 11:20 AM |
Q2 | 11:20 AM - 12:30 PM |
Wednesday Q1, 9 AM - 10:30 AM (Eastern US)
- Welcome, Introductions, and Agenda Review (HL7 Officers)
- HL7 DEV Working Group 'Health Reports and the Project and Ballot Health Metrics': 2021Sep Final Reports
- May 2021 WG Meeting Minutes Review / Approval (Garguilo)
- Note: HL7 International Education on Demand Site for members: https://www.pathlms.com/hl7
- "How To" videos on Confluence and Jira
- Congrats to Chris Courville - recently elected to another 2-year term as a HL7 DEV Co-chair
- HL7 DEV General WG Updates (HL7 Officers)
HL7 DEV / Updates & Biz and Work Group documents
Anesthesia (Martin Hurrell/John Walsh)
- Topics?
- Previously discussed idea of merging projects version 2 of Intraoperative anesthesia DAM and FHIR Implementation Guide
V2-to-FHIR Mapping (specifically for ORU) (John Rhoads)
- What's changed since May WG Mtgs...
- HL7 PHD and PoCD FHIR DoF - focus
- General Updates per the IGs and active projects
- IHE Devices / PCH (PCHAlliance / Continua) report out + POU profile & BPP's under development (Thom Ericson)
- IEEE PHD Report-out on ACOM, GHS & relation to DoF work (Brian Reinhold)
- General Updates per the IGs and active projects
Break from 11:10 AM - 11:20 AM EST
Wednesday Q2, 11:20 AM - 12:30 PM (Eastern US)
MDIRA profile update (Steve Griffiths / Jan Rizzuto / Todd Cooper)
- General project update (Jan)
- Current Gemini MDIRA Profile efforts & outlook
Guest Presentation: Dr. Maurice Ramirez on AI applied to SAMD & Emergency Care
Incorporating description - cross-walk to UDI (John Rhoads)
- Provide an update per OO & IEEE standards & IHE Profiles >
- Issues and Challenges...
Discussion (potential items) before tomorrow/Thursday's Joint O&O Meeting in Q1 (John Rhoads)
- At Thursday Q1 joint w/ O&O DEV BRR: JIRA items related Device, DeviceDefinition & DeviceMetric (also device Product, Catalog)
- NOTE: For Thursday Q1 Please join using O&O's Zoom Meeting Information - You may use the Whova app in order to join the meeting with OO
- (Potential Discussion Topics from prior weekly meetings and O&O recent Mtg Minutes...)
PRT[Device]
We need to review all messages in scope for PRTs and see whether any one may need to map to DeviceUseStatement.
We need to look more at the Action Code in PRT-2 and determine how that impacts the creation and/or status of the FHIR resource being mapped to
Included comments to address PRT-2 = D. This needs to be copied to any other message mapping PRT.
PRT[Observation-Location]
Does it make sense to record the begin and end dates for a location? Is it likely that a location participates for only a portion of the Observation time period (which are themselves typically a point in time)?
We agreed not to map at this time. The time period should be done on the event resource that reflects the activity performed in the location. While in v2 that may be an OBX with a specific LOINC (or other code), in FHIR that could be a different resource from Observation to capture that event.
Looked at an alternate mapping for PRT-5 (based on what we are doing in ORC for ordering provider) that needs to be resolved
Agreed to map PRT-5 to PractitionerRole.practitioner. - Done
We will add this to the issues list as a general request for feedback.
Discussion (potential items) before tomorrow/Thursday's Joint FHIR-I Meeting in Q1 (Chris Courville)
Adjourn IHE-DEV Wednesday
Wednesday Q3 + Q4 (No WG meetings)
Open
HL7 Devices (DEV) WG Meeting
9/23/21 | Thursday |
Q1 | Joint at/with O&O + FHIR-I |
Break | 10:30 - 10:45 AM |
Q2 | 10:45 AM - 12:00 PM |
Thursday Q1 (9:00 - 10:30 AM EST)
Note: No IHE-DEV Mtgs for Q1 - Members welcomed to join Joint O&O and FHIR-I WG Sessions
Joint at FHIR-I (Courville + Team)
FHIR-I WG Coordination (Chris C. - overview of future work/items, Publishing IGs/Device Alert; maturity process...??)
- At Thursday Q1 joint w/ FHIR-I (Jira Item/Key: FHIR-32557 - Normative Device Attributes)
- NOTE: You must use the Whova app (Zoom TCcon Service) in order to join the meeting with FHIR-I
Joint at O & O (Rhoads + Team)
- At Thursday Q1 joint w/ O&O DEV BRR: JIRA items related Device, DeviceDefinition & DeviceMetric (also device Product, Catalog)
- NOTE: You must use the Whova app in order to join the meeting with OO
- (Potential Topics below noted from O&O prior weekly meetings and discussions...)
PRT[Device]- We need to review all messages in scope for PRTs and see whether any one may need to map to DeviceUseStatement.
- We need to look more at the Action Code in PRT-2 and determine how that impacts the creation and/or status of the FHIR resource being mapped to
- Included comments to address PRT-2 = D. This needs to be copied to any other message mapping PRT.
PRT[Observation-Location]
- Does it make sense to record the begin and end dates for a location? Is it likely that a location participates for only a portion of the Observation time period (which are themselves typically a point in time)?
- We agreed not to map at this time. The time period should be done on the event resource that reflects the activity performed in the location. While in v2 that may be an OBX with a specific LOINC (or other code), in FHIR that could be a different resource from Observation to capture that event.
- Looked at an alternate mapping for PRT-5 (based on what we are doing in ORC for ordering provider) that needs to be resolved
- Agreed to map PRT-5 to PractitionerRole.practitioner. - Done
- We will add this to the issues list as a general request for feedback.
Break from 10:30 AM - 11:00 AM EST
Thursday Q2 (11:00 AM - 1:00 PM EST)
Welcome and Introductions (new attendees)
A minute of silence for those who passed in 2021 ...
Quote of the Day:
OO Report Out from Joint Meeting with DEV in Q1 (Rhoads)
V2-to-FHIR mapping update (esp. for ORU message semantics)
UDI Update (is it actually still ... relevant? Progressing?)
FHIR DeviceDefinition & related device supply chain management discussions
FHIR-I Report Out from Joint Meeting with DEV in Q1 (Courville + Team)
(NIST) Tooling & Testing (Faughn, Garguilo)
RTMMS version 2 status update (Faughn)
V2+ Project / Tooling Update
NOTE: Gemini SES MDI related CA & Tooling to be provided in the Friday discussion
Joint with Mobile Health WG (Matt Graham/Gora Datta/Nathan Botts/Frank Ploeg - Mobile Health Co-Chairs)
Welcome & Introductions (Mobile Health WG Agenda)
- General mHealth WG Updates w/ report out and status of on-going projects (Graham/Datta)
- New PSS "Unique Mobile Health App Identifier" (Datta)
- Topic: Possible connection between JHU/APL MDIRA / Gemini MDIRA Profile & HL7 mHealth Standards? (Cooper / Datta)
ONC ISA & USCDI Request for Comments (Lead?)
Our opportunity to provide devices-related input to this ONC effort
- Comment period closes September 30th
See Interoperability Standards Advisory (ISA) Table of Contents
USCDI questions? andrew.northup@hhs.gov
- NEWS: FDA Launching AI/ML-Enabled Devices List
Housekeeping: Current Versions of WG documents, for discussion (Rhoads)
HL7 DEV Confluence Page providing mission and relationships: https://confluence.hl7.org/display/HCD
Download HL7 Decision making practices (Default_HL7_WG_DMP_2019_V5.2_Clean)
Thursday Q3 + Q4 (No WG meetings)
- No Meetings / Open if needed
Friday Q1/2 (9:00 AM - 12:30 PM AM EST)
9/24/2021 | Friday |
Q1/Q2 | 9:00–12:30 AM |
Break | TBD |
Welcome and Daily Agenda Review (Cooper)
Japan SCOT project (Koichiro)
Other Potential
Topics: Devices on FHIR (Carried forward From Wednesday Q1)
PHD FHIR IG (rev 0.3.0) - ballot comment resolution and advancement toward publication, and planning + Next Version
PoCD FHIR IG (rev 2.0) - PSS advancement
DeviceAlert FHIR Resource - FHIR Resource project proposal review / content review / advance toward first ballot Summer '22 etc. (Jan-Alrik Philipsen)
NOTE: HL7 PMO October PSS submission deadline
QUESTION: Will we/DEV need to meet with FMG or others to review our work plan and get it "approved"? <Probably a FMG call outside the WGM week>
- Real-world Implementation Challenges - FHIR Resource & IG Change Management
- FHIR Resources NOT managed by HL7 DEV are key elements in DoF IGs (e.g., Patient, Observation, Location) ... change management is VERY important
- Moving from Universal Realm to a specific National Realm (e.g., Netherlands) - How will this be managed / supported by the PoCD / PHD FHIR IG's
- Past unresolved (Specific) topics?:
Update on TC215 & JWG7 Related Projects (PHN-A & DTx & SES MDI) (Todd Cooper)
Gemini SES MDI - SDC/SDPi+FHIR Update (Cooper)
General Project Update (activities since the May '21 WGM)
- Role of Gemini MDIRA Profile
- 3-Year Roadmap Overview
- RI+MC+RR for SDPi 1.0 & Conformity Assessment & Beyond
Gemini SES/Regulatory Initiative Kick-off
Toward ISO/IEEE 11073 "MDC" 2.0 (Cooper)
Gemini SDC/SDPi Confluence Pages Review ("upon request") (Cooper)
Open Discussion / Topics Arising from this week... (Co-Chairs)
IEEE POCD 11073 additional topics
Interoperability standards success stories/Pilots and Conformity updates around the globe
FDA (Konstantinos Makrodimitris) Meetings - Planning 2021-2022
- considerations about a November 2022 in person meeting at FDA
Regulatory map/coordination on interoperability
...
Planning January 18-21 '22 WGM (Co-Chairs
Feedback from these/Sept '21 meetings
Objectives / Core Topics for January '22 (incl. joint sessions)
- HL7 (Virtual) Room Reservation for January 2021 Meetings (Garguilo)
Action Items overview going forward from Sept. 2021(HL7/IEEE/ISO) and coordination with other SDOs
Action Item Review
HL7 PSS "Action Plan"
Meeting Adjournment (Co-Chairs)
Current Versions of WG documents, for discussion (To Do: John Rhoads please validate for latest versions...)
https://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/healthcaredevices/Default_HL7_WG_DMP_2018.pdf
Default_HL7_WG_DMP_2019_V5.2_Clean.docx
https://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/wg/healthcaredevices/HCD_DEV_SWOT_Analysis_2019-01-17.doc