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Attendees Present

Chair:  Anthony Julian
Scribe: Anne Wizauer


Name
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Calvin Beebe


Chris Chute
xLorraine Constable
x

Tony Julian

xPaul Knapp
RAustin Kreisler
xWayne Kubick
xThom Kuhn

Rik Smithies
xSandy Stuart
xJane
xRon Parker
xCecil Lynch
xHugh Glover
xZoran Milosevic
xReuben Daniel
xBrian Pech
xGuests from Saudi Arabia

Monday, Q2:

  1. Agenda review
  2. Guest Presentation - Jane
  3. Errata/Technical Correction Definitions from ARB
    1. Draft a precept that families define what conformance to a normative specification means within that product family.
      1. What are the rules around change to a normative spec? 
        1. Issue brought forward from ARB
  4. Continue work on Proposed Rules: Lifetime of Standards
  5. Review TSC comments on steps for establishing a product family (inline on page)
  6. Request from Agile Standards Task Force for SGB to develop standard language stating that a standard has been retired and should no longer be implemented, and that current standards can be accessed on HL7.org
  7. Parking Lot
    1. Definition of specification - from 2019-04-24 SGB Agenda/Minutes
    2. HTA:  Referencing external vocabulary and currency of value set content.
      1. Identify what, if any, precepts need to be created to support Referencing External Vocabulary
      2. Is Currency of Value Set Content within HTA's scope?
    3. Large group engagement for standards development

      1. risks/precepts

    4. Precept on mapping coordination - mappings should be a component of cross-family projects. How to represent mapping in a standardized way? 
    5. Precepts We Need to Develop - prioritize/analyze risk
    6. Ballot vs. non-ballot feedback - check on JIRA balloting alignment with policies


Friday Q3:

  1. Agenda review
  2. Create a plan for BAM guidance on process for product adoption/how are new products introduced
    1. How do we implement the BAM? SAIF
  3. Ownership of content/precept on coordination with domain committees 
    1. Issue is around products crossing multiple product families - who owns those?
      1. Draft Precept: The family of the wire format is the responsible family, and the management group of that family would manage it.
    2. Management group vitality assessment precept
  4. Communicating and enforcing precepts

Minutes 

  1. Agenda review
  2. Guest Presentation - Jane
    1. Jane presents on how Mayo is working to use BPM+ and FHIR together. The goal is to use this as a use case for the community and get suggestions for improvement. Zoran asks about how they plan to add the layers of policy for permissions, consent, etc. for researchers. Jane states they haven't gotten to that point yet - this will be point of care for physicians in this phase. 
    2. Group agrees this work has significant potential for benefits and value across the community
  3. Tony asks all SGB members to review action items
  4. Continue work on Proposed Rules: Lifetime of Standards
  5. Errata/Technical Correction Definitions from ARB
    1. SGB: Draft a precept that families define what conformance to a normative specification means within that product family.
      1. What are the rules around change to a normative spec? 
        1. Issue brought forward from ARB
    2. Reviewed current version of Errata/Technical Correction Definitions
      1. Changes to informative published balloted specifications notes using the STU update process - is that correct? May need to define a separate process or update the GOM to reflect that it can be used. 
        1. Added note that Informative published balloted specifications may be made by a limited scope update process as defined by the TSC.
      2. Substantive changes to normative published balloted specification require a ballot but can be a limited scope if the WG wishes.
        1. MOTION to approve these updates and submit to TSC for review: Lorraine/Thom
        2. VOTE: All in favor
          • Anne Wizauerto add updated Errata Technical Correction Definitions to TSC agenda
  6. Carry forward:
    1. Review TSC comments on steps for establishing a product family (inline on page)
    2. Request from Agile Standards Task Force for SGB to develop standard language stating that a standard has been retired and should no longer be implemented, and that current standards can be accessed on HL7.org
    3. Parking Lot
      1. Definition of specification - from 2019-04-24 SGB Agenda/Minutes
      2. HTA:  Referencing external vocabulary and currency of value set content.
        1. Identify what, if any, precepts need to be created to support Referencing External Vocabulary
        2. Is Currency of Value Set Content within HTA's scope?
      3. Large group engagement for standards development

        1. risks/precepts

      4. Precept on mapping coordination - mappings should be a component of cross-family projects. How to represent mapping in a standardized way? 
      5. Precepts We Need to Develop - prioritize/analyze risk
      6. Ballot vs. non-ballot feedback - check on JIRA balloting alignment with policies


OPEN ACTION ITEMS:


DescriptionDue dateAssigneeTask appears on
2019-12-18 SGB Agenda/Minutes
  • Paul Knapp to send documentation to the cochairs of HTA and Vocabulary noting that we've drafted precepts on external terminologies and highlight questions on their currency document.
Paul Knapp2019-11-06 SGB Agenda/Minutes
Paul Knapp2019-09-20 SGB WGM Agenda/Minutes
Paul Knapp2019-09-20 SGB WGM Agenda/Minutes
Austin Kreisler2019-09-20 SGB WGM Agenda/Minutes
Lorraine Constable2019-09-20 SGB WGM Agenda/Minutes
Anne Wizauer2019-08-28 SGB Agenda/Minutes
  • ACTION: Paul Knappto ask for the most current version of Currency of Value Set Content
Paul Knapp2019-08-07 SGB Agenda/Minutes
  • ACTION: Paul Knapp will work on a grid with types of change/degree of review
Paul Knapp2019-05-22 SGB Agenda/Minutes
  • ACTION: Need to create precepts on stable identifiers for value sets, concept maps, and code systems
2019-01-18 SGB WGM
  • ACTION: Review proposed updates to the GOM, then determine how/where to represent SGB
2019-01-18 SGB WGM
  • Add Calvin's document on continuous maintenance and the decision to the SGB site.

2018-11-14 SGB Agenda/Minutes