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ChairJohn Hatem

Dial-in Number

  • (770)-657-9270, passcode 458523

Web session


Independent Consultant
Kaiser Permanente
Pooja BabbrahPOCP
Peter Sergent
Frank McKinneyPOCP
Cathy Graff 

Agenda Items and Notes

Outstanding Action Item List

Out of Cycle Meeting - Joint ISO/Pharmacy

  • March 30 - April 3 - Washington
  • Ask Christian if it could be done as a video conference instead of F2F
  • Ask about specific agenda topics
  • Scott will be in attendance because he is in attendance for ISO meeting
  • Will propose some specific topics

Catalogue Project

  • January 20, 2020

    • primary focus is on lab at this time

    • Reviewed Catalog FHIR IG on Jan 17 conference call

      • There will be areas in the Catalog IG that Pharmacy will contribute to
      • Suggest setting up a time to have Catalog meet with Pharmacy on one of our conf calls
    • Discussing a For Comment ballot of this IG, possibly in May, 2020

Updates from Workflow

  • January 20, 2020
    • dealing with tracker items. 
    • Workflow is cancelling the WGM workflow meeting
    • There were no discussions on today's Workflow call
    • Workflow meetings will be cancelled for Jan 27, Feb 3 and Feb 10. 
    • Next Workflow Meeting is Feb 17, 2020 

Healthcare Product

  • January 20, 2020
    • based in O&O with many groups participating
    • Early work set boundaries
    • updating definitions to defining when different resources should be used
      • establishing "patterns" 
    • Last meeting was on Dec 16th from my minutes.  During the meeting the following topics were discussed: 
      • Blood Administration and how to model it: the suggestions were to either create a new resource or to use a profile on Procedure or Medication Administration
        • Meeting to be setup with OO, RX and PC to discuss this topic
      • Another discussion was whether we should create a "pattern" and assure that similar resources are all modeling the same type of requirements the same way
      • Last topic discussed was how to update documentation to guide users of the FHIR resources when to use Device, Device Definition and Medication - specifically for a pharmacy use case, where the device may include a medication. 
    • Meeting on January 20 - 

NCPDP Updates

  • January 20, 2020
    • Pharmacist eCarePlan
      • no publication request (per Jean D skype) ... yet
      • will reach out to Shelly to get status Scott M. Robertson
    • Specialty Prescribing PSS update
      • need to be able to send associated clinical information
      • reviewed spreadsheet with clinical information needed
      • question if this should live in (be sponsored by) Pharmacy, Orders (since these are a lot of observations), or even PatientCare
        • needs discussion with all co-chairs
      • targeting for Sept ballot
  • January 13, 2020
    • Pharmacist eCare Plan is getting the Publication Request ready - vote at next conference call
    • ePrescribing Specialty task group is meeting on the 14th
    • White Paper task group is starting to meet
    • New project statement to look at using the current Pharmacist Care Plan to submit a Comprehensive Medication Review summary.  Can we use FHIR to help with this form?

V2-FHIR Mapping

  • January 20, 2020 - 
  • January 13, 2020 - Review is still in-progress

Sydney WGM


  • Real Time Pharmacy Benefit Check -
    • January 20, 2020 
      • in ballot, responding to issues 
    • January 13, 2020 - no update

Medication List

DaVinci PDeX Formulary Project

  • January 13, 2020 - Email sent to Saul and Dave telling them they can make this change without balloting
    • Need to double-check that TSC approved the publication request
  • Discussion - would have to do a re-build of the IG publication
    • new IG changes the URLs of the extensions - anyone who has implemented would need to make a change to their implementation
    • would need to let implementers know
    • Jean will reach out to Lloyd to see about the rules for this type of change
      • Lloyd - yes this change can be made without ballot
    • still follow up items
      • other issues
      • publication request


Trackers - link to pharmacy unresolved Jira trackers 

FHIR-24099 - Getting issue details... STATUS

  • Need to break this into separate trackers to address definitions for each resource
  • First to break out is Medication Administration

FHIR-25538 - Getting issue details... STATUS

  • Created as clone of  FHIR-24099 Review and update definitions of pharmacy resources
  • This tracker is specific to MedicationAdministration
  • reviewed and revised Scope and Usage

This resource covers the administration of all medications and vaccines. Please refer to the Immunization Resource/Profile for the treatment of vaccines. It will principally be used within care settings (including inpatient) to record the capture of medication administrations, including self-administrations of oral medications, injections, intra-venous infusions adjustments, etc. It can also be used in outpatient settings to record allergy shots and other non-immunization administrations. In some cases, it might be used for home-health reporting, such as recording self-administered or even device-administered insulin.

Note: devices coated with a medication (e.g. heparin) are not typically recorded as a medication administration.  However, medications administered via an implanted medication pump (e.g., insulin) would be recorded as a MedicationAdministration.

Next meeting

  • January 27, 2020 - skip
  • February 3, 2020 - cancelled - WGM meeting
  • February 10, 2020 - usually skip week after WGM
  • February 17, 2020 
    • PSS submitted by February 21 for Sept ballot

Action Items