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Melva Peters

Jenaker Consulting

Peter Sergent

HL7 New Zealand

Pooja BabbrahPoint of Care Partners
Tim McNeilSurescripts
Jean DuteauDuteau Design

John Hatem
Andrew GrothenUSP

Agenda Items and Notes

Outstanding Action Item List

PDeX Formulary Implementation Guide Progress

Active Medication List

  • Discussion/Collaboration page - Active Medication List
  • Need to make sure we include context as we talk about requirements
  • US Meds needs to be updated for R4 -
  • Do we need multiple Ids - US Realm vs others?  
  • Should start with describing the different contexts
  • John Hatem will start to pull this together


Medication Knowledge Resource (#160095)

Gforge Trackers - Link to Gforge Tracker

Triaged Trackers

  • #22652 - Medication.manufacturer too constrained 
    • The use case we had was that this would be the manufacturer not the sponsor
    • May be an attribute for MedicationKnowledge rather than Medication
    • Believe it would be an extension unless other implementers need to send sponsor
    • Resolved and voted on - see GForge Tracker
  • Jean Duteau will reach out to contacts to see what this attribute should be called
  • #22651 - MedicationUsage.effective
  • #22633 - search on ProductType for MedicationKnowledge
  • #22272 - Medication Form Codes
  • #22148 -
  • #22146 - MedicationRequest.performer
  • #20673 MedAdmin category CodeableConcept
  • #19913 - Valueset for Dosage.method

    • This issue is related to the Zulip chat related to "infusions".  Once we have improved the value set to support "IV Push" and "IV Bolus", it should be possible to query for all medications who have a route of Intravenous, and exclude in the query those medications who have a method of IV Push or IV Bolus.
    • See Pharmacy List Topic where this same issue is discussed.   
  • #19365 - Definition for Medication List 

  • #15509 - Example Scenarios for Pharmacy
  • #15136 - Conditional Dosages
    • Reach out to CDS to see if they have done any work in this space
    • Melva Peters Create examples from Oncology, NCPDP and GF19694

Waiting for Input

  • #20184 - binding for site in Dosage
  • #17222  this tracker is about the assessment of whether Medication Request resource could support anesthesia gas orders.  We did receive a document from Anesthesia and will follow up with them about their use cases.  

    • John Hatem will follow up with anesthesia regarding pharmacy feedback and to assess next steps

Catalogue Project

  • preparing for a review of FHIR resources 

Updates from Workflow

  • No meetings last week or this week

Pharmacy Templates

  • waiting for Kai to produce updated version 
  • Have confirmed with Lynn that we can publish a consolidated version - will be published as Release 1 - includes order, statement, dispense and administration

Pharmacist Care Plan Ballot Reconciliation


No discussion

Healthcare Product

  • Meeting today - nothing that impacts pharmacy

New Projects

  • Dennis Tribble's Project
    • deferred until next week
  • Pharmacy Benefit Check
    • CARIN Consumer-facing Real-time Pharmacy Benefit Check PSS
    • NCPDP working on a transaction that is a real time pharmacy benefit check - physician through EHR can get more information from payer
      • have formulary and benefit information today - but it is static and may not have enough information
      • new transaction allows pinging of a payer - patient facing benefit check - price information (price to the patient/out of pocket cost) and alternative drugs
      • patient gets prescribed a medication - through an app - can check their own benefit information
    • being done under CAIRN Alliance - want to develop an API - do a FHIR transaction also under NCPDP
    • What resources will be profiled? unsure
    • How does this fit with the daVinci project?
      • Related to CMS rule - requires payers to have at least 1 real time benefit tool 
      • daVinci - deals with provision of formulary information - project will be providing full formulary 
        • but this is not the use case that is defined in the daVinci Formulary project
      • There is overlap between the daVinci, but this is not patient specific in scope at this point
      • The Cairn project is patient-specific
    • Pooja will discuss further with Bob and Jocelyn (daVinci) - to understand scope and overlap
      • Since the daVinci IG is owned by Pharmacy - believe the Project should be sponsored by Pharmacy WG instead of Financial Management
      • should link the two IGs together
    • Needs further clarification before we agree to sponsor - Pooja will come back to Pharmacy WG on next weeks call

Any Other Business

  • Meeting next week - will anyone be at DevDays?
    • no one will be at DevDays - will have meeting

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