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Subcommittee Lead: Jessica Bota 

Supporting TSMG Co-Chair: Reuben Daniels 

Date/Time:  

Tuesday 8:30-10:00PM UTC

Thursday 3:30-5:00PM USA EST

Friday 7:30-9:00AM AEDT

Friday 9:30-11:00AM NZDT 

See https://www.hl7.org/concalls/CallDirectory.aspx for meeting details.


Attendees

Attendee type:

M - TSMG Member

O -Observer / Guest

Attendance:

P - present

A - Apologies

X - (Apologies with Proxy)

Name

Affiliation

M (Co-Chair)


Reuben DanielsSaludax
M

P

Jess Bota

Apelon, Inc.
M

Lisa Nelson

MaxMD
MP

Michael Faughn

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
M
Davera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research
M (CSDO)

Dan Vreeman

HL7 International
M
Rob McClureMD Partners
O
Grahame Grieve
O

P

Ted Klein

Klein Consulting
O

P

Marc Duteau 

HL7 International
O

Joan Harper

Canada Health Infoway
O

John Snyder

National Library of Medicine
OP

Rob Hausam

MITRE
O

Alex Kontur

ONC
O
Ravi KafleWashington State Department of Health
O
Abdullah RafiqiICF
O
Hope GrayUAB - Birmingham, HL7 Intern
O
Martha JonesGeorge Mason, HL7 Intern

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Agenda Topics

Meeting was recorded

Agenda Outline

Time Allocation

Lead

Agenda Item
Administrative5JB
  • Rollcall & Proxies
  • Note that meetings are recorded
  • Agenda check
Status10JB
Policy/Process Business30 JB
  • Potential systematic errors with FHIR content imported years ago
    • FHIR external content planned to be moved to THO and have URL anchor changes from fhir to THO
    • FHIR external tabs were removed for R4B and resources added to THO
    • For v2 and v3 content, 'v2-' and v3-' were prepended to the url, there were ~30 or so collisions 
    • The v2 and v3 tabs were removed as well
    • At least one of the v3 items had its defining url changed v3-confidentiality to v3-confidentialityClassification (same oid, content, desc, etc)
      • Can't rename url because IGs are using v3-confidentialityClassification
      • Other IGs are referencing it just by v3-confidentiality
    • John Moerke to create new vs with either new oid or no oid with v3-confidentialityClassification with CLD with entire value set v3-confidentiality
    • US postal codes is another example (and is an example binding)
    • Don't have a way to search if this problem exists with other resources
  • Handling THO anchored content in the FHIR spec FHIR-37440 - Getting issue details... STATUS  
  • Incorporating Dashboard of Release Changes into THO pages
  • Fix the "All HL7 Code Systems" tab to exclude external content
    • Tracked via UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS
    • Two options for approach (listed in comments of ticket)
    • Third option proposed: change to the IGPublisher manifest file format to support patterns based on the <id> value in the artefacts. 
      • MD to put this question to the IGPublisher team.
    • Fourth option is to request tooling change to better sort if there are duplicates
    • Can report back to TSMG to see how we would like to proceed
  • Requesting URL for content that is currently maintained in an IG but intended to be in THO
    • Davinci PCT IG wants to reserve urls for content that lives in the IG but eventually will be moved to THO
    • Options
      • Add to Pending tab (but this is only in CI build)
      • Add full content (timeline constraints)
      • Put list resource that points to DaVinci resources
    • Rob Hausam will put together full list of code systems and value sets and then will need to get THO urls to use in IG
      • URLs to be anchored in http://terminology.hl7.org/CodeSystem/ (or ValueSet for value sets), id at end needs to be unique across THO
      • Can add list via markup on the Pending tab
      • Will touch base throughout the week to work on getting these added to the build appropriately
    • Marc to look at version difference between THO anchored resources that exist in both IG and THO Pending tab

DID NOT DISCUSS BELOW

  • Cleanup of HSCR tickets 
    • HSCR-139 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • This ticket appears to be done. Though its status indicates IN PROGRESS. Jessica Bota , can you close this one?
    • HSCR-118 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Support for supplement and fragments may already be supported. Need more detail on what specifically may be required to close this.
      • It would be helpful if the rendering of CodeSystem resources which are fragments, supplements or metadata only, or convenience copies explicitly state this in the yellow box at the top.
    • HSCR-97 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Need more information on what is required for this ticket.
    • HSCR-19 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Need more detail, this may have been done as we do not have the errors anymore.
Ticket Review
JB
  • UP Consensus Review Dashboard: https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12309
    • UP-326 - Adding Witness and Notary terms to the Personal and Legal Relationship Value Set 
    • UP-370 - Getting issue details... STATUS - add a new code (HAS-INLINE-SEC-LABELS) to v3-ActCode to the value set ObligationPolicy
    • What to do with languished tickets?
  • UP In Progress Dashboard: https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12308
    • Waiting for Input (many tickets transitioned from FHIR project here)
      • UP-113 - NAV code repeated in table of values WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-111 - OID for Contact Role WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-114 - non-unique designations on a concept WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-108 - security-role-type missing from list of FHIR value sets and missing an OID WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-110 - Missing OID for BCP13 WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-104 - OID missing for urn:ietf:bcp:47 (2.16.840.1.113883.6.316) WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-102 - Code system used but not defined WAITING FOR INPUT

Note that we really need to make sure new content has an OID assigned!

Subcommittee Work in Progress15JB
  • THO cleanup
    • These tickets have approval from TSMG to proceed in UTG
      • Fix the "All HL7 Code Systems" tab to exclude external content UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Add subtabs to categorize identifier systems
      • Add profiles and extensions to THO
  • Execution of Deprecation representation and policy in UTG/THO
    • Deprecation Policy Framework documents policy and next steps
    • Grahame agreed to render identifier.period in next release of IG publisher (confirm it renders and remove from agenda)
  • Task force recommendation review and implementation (voting, quorums, WG health, etc.): UTG Task Force Recommendations to TSC 
    • Should review and prioritize for implementation after automation work is stable
    • Note that MnM is likely dissolving and impact on OSGs
   Adjournment0JBCall adjourned at 5:00PM EDT. Next call in two weeks at 3:30PM EDT January 5, 2023.

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