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Subcommittee Lead: Jessica Bota 

Supporting TSMG Co-Chair: Reuben Daniels 


Tuesday 8:30-10:00PM UTC

Thursday 3:30-5:00PM USA EST

Friday 7:30-9:00AM AEDT

Friday 9:30-11:00AM NZDT 

See for meeting details.


Attendee type:

M - TSMG Member

O -Observer / Guest


P - present

A - Apologies

X - (Apologies with Proxy)



M (Co-Chair)

Reuben DanielsSaludax


Jess Bota

Apelon, Inc.

Lisa Nelson


Michael Faughn

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
Davera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research

Dan Vreeman

HL7 International
Rob McClureMD Partners
Grahame Grieve


Ted Klein

Klein Consulting


Marc Duteau 

HL7 International

Joan Harper

Canada Health Infoway

John Snyder

National Library of Medicine

Rob Hausam


Alex Kontur

Ravi KafleWashington State Department of Health
Abdullah RafiqiICF
Hope GrayUAB - Birmingham, HL7 Intern
Martha JonesGeorge Mason, HL7 Intern

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Agenda Topics

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Agenda Outline

Time Allocation


Agenda Item
  • Rollcall & Proxies
  • Note that meetings are recorded
  • Agenda check
Policy/Process Business30 JB
  • Potential systematic errors with FHIR content imported years ago
    • FHIR external content planned to be moved to THO and have URL anchor changes from fhir to THO
    • FHIR external tabs were removed for R4B and resources added to THO
    • For v2 and v3 content, 'v2-' and v3-' were prepended to the url, there were ~30 or so collisions 
    • The v2 and v3 tabs were removed as well
    • At least one of the v3 items had its defining url changed v3-confidentiality to v3-confidentialityClassification (same oid, content, desc, etc)
      • Can't rename url because IGs are using v3-confidentialityClassification
      • Other IGs are referencing it just by v3-confidentiality
    • John Moerke to create new vs with either new oid or no oid with v3-confidentialityClassification with CLD with entire value set v3-confidentiality
    • US postal codes is another example (and is an example binding)
    • Don't have a way to search if this problem exists with other resources
  • Handling THO anchored content in the FHIR spec FHIR-37440 - Getting issue details... STATUS  
  • Incorporating Dashboard of Release Changes into THO pages
  • Fix the "All HL7 Code Systems" tab to exclude external content
    • Tracked via UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS
    • Two options for approach (listed in comments of ticket)
    • Third option proposed: change to the IGPublisher manifest file format to support patterns based on the <id> value in the artefacts. 
      • MD to put this question to the IGPublisher team.
    • Fourth option is to request tooling change to better sort if there are duplicates
    • Can report back to TSMG to see how we would like to proceed
  • Requesting URL for content that is currently maintained in an IG but intended to be in THO
    • Davinci PCT IG wants to reserve urls for content that lives in the IG but eventually will be moved to THO
    • Options
      • Add to Pending tab (but this is only in CI build)
      • Add full content (timeline constraints)
      • Put list resource that points to DaVinci resources
    • Rob Hausam will put together full list of code systems and value sets and then will need to get THO urls to use in IG
      • URLs to be anchored in (or ValueSet for value sets), id at end needs to be unique across THO
      • Can add list via markup on the Pending tab
      • Will touch base throughout the week to work on getting these added to the build appropriately
    • Marc to look at version difference between THO anchored resources that exist in both IG and THO Pending tab


  • Cleanup of HSCR tickets 
    • HSCR-139 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • This ticket appears to be done. Though its status indicates IN PROGRESS. Jessica Bota , can you close this one?
    • HSCR-118 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Support for supplement and fragments may already be supported. Need more detail on what specifically may be required to close this.
      • It would be helpful if the rendering of CodeSystem resources which are fragments, supplements or metadata only, or convenience copies explicitly state this in the yellow box at the top.
    • HSCR-97 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Need more information on what is required for this ticket.
    • HSCR-19 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Need more detail, this may have been done as we do not have the errors anymore.
Ticket Review
  • UP Consensus Review Dashboard:
    • UP-326 - Adding Witness and Notary terms to the Personal and Legal Relationship Value Set 
    • UP-370 - Getting issue details... STATUS - add a new code (HAS-INLINE-SEC-LABELS) to v3-ActCode to the value set ObligationPolicy
    • What to do with languished tickets?
  • UP In Progress Dashboard:
    • Waiting for Input (many tickets transitioned from FHIR project here)
      • UP-113 - NAV code repeated in table of values WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-111 - OID for Contact Role WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-114 - non-unique designations on a concept WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-108 - security-role-type missing from list of FHIR value sets and missing an OID WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-110 - Missing OID for BCP13 WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-104 - OID missing for urn:ietf:bcp:47 (2.16.840.1.113883.6.316) WAITING FOR INPUT
      • UP-102 - Code system used but not defined WAITING FOR INPUT

Note that we really need to make sure new content has an OID assigned!

Subcommittee Work in Progress15JB
  • THO cleanup
    • These tickets have approval from TSMG to proceed in UTG
      • Fix the "All HL7 Code Systems" tab to exclude external content UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Add subtabs to categorize identifier systems
      • Add profiles and extensions to THO
  • Execution of Deprecation representation and policy in UTG/THO
    • Deprecation Policy Framework documents policy and next steps
    • Grahame agreed to render identifier.period in next release of IG publisher (confirm it renders and remove from agenda)
  • Task force recommendation review and implementation (voting, quorums, WG health, etc.): UTG Task Force Recommendations to TSC 
    • Should review and prioritize for implementation after automation work is stable
    • Note that MnM is likely dissolving and impact on OSGs
   Adjournment0JBCall adjourned at 5:00PM EDT. Next call in two weeks at 3:30PM EDT January 5, 2023.

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