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Danielle BancroftBest Practice Software
Melva Peters (Chair)Jenaker Consultingx
Jean DuteauDuteau Design
John HatemIndependent Consultantx
Scott Robertson Kaiser Permanente
Christof GessnerHL7 Germany
Corey SpearsMITRE
Dave HillMITRE
Frank McKinneyPOCPx
Isaac VetterEpic
Smile Digital Health
Lawrence LoColumbia University HIT Student
Margaret WeikerNCPDPx
Matt SzczepankiewiczEpic
Peter SergentHL7 New Zealandx
Reed D. GelzerTrustworthy EHR
Shelly SpiroPharmacy HIT Collaborativex
Stephen ChuADHA


Tim McNeilSurescriptsx
Kim RobertsPharmacy HIT Collaborativex
Phung Matthews3M
Jack BrashierEpic
Emmanuel Obasuyi

Joel MontavonPQA
Robb YoungPharmID
Christopher Isong

Gary SchoettmerNetRx
Courtney BlandCVS / Aetna
Mark NeumuthAetna
Ed MillikanFDA
Sanket RavalCVS / Aetna
James Tcheng
Peter Muir
Joe KellySurescripts
Peter Jordan

Jose Costa Teixeira

Jeff ShickUSP
Kent BulzaArterax

Agenda Items and Notes

Outstanding Action Item List

Meeting Notes from previous meeting

Project Proposals

Project Proposals in Review 

  • None to review

Project Scope Statements

Project Scope Statements

  • PSS-2138 - Getting issue details... STATUS - Retrieval of Immunization Data via Bulk FHIR - no requirement for Pharmacy to be involved

External Meeting Review

Catalog Updates (John Hatem)

  • - no meeting last week

Workflow Update (John Hatem)

  • - no meeting today

Healthcare Product Update (John Hatem)

  • - meeting today - discussed Biologically Derived Product - dispense resource
    • nothing specific for Pharmacy - John recommending using consistent patterns as MedicationDispense

EHR conformant reconciled medication list (cRML) (Scott Robertson / John Hatem / Jimmy Tcheng)

  •   - Work moving forward - 4 work streams
    • Wednesday 5pm Eastern - meeting time - getting into the HL7 Calendar
    • working on specifications documents - want to make more accessible
    • Work to develop a prototype - PBM company - as their bandwidth allows - could be tested in a demonstration site
    • Conformance work stream - authenticity construct
    • intending to develop a project proposal/PSS - for this project - patient reconciled medication list
    • John offered to help Jimmy get a Project Proposal created
    • no meetings have been added to the calendar - needs to be a Co-chair that adds a conference call

Potential Drug-Drug Interaction (PDDI) CDS IG

  • From last week agenda: Reviewing for ballot.  Call on Nov 23 at noon eastern to review.
  • Scott/John, could not join ... specifically link didn't work
    • follow up with Jean
    • Melva to check email and followup if meetings are still planned
      • are there minutes?

NCPDP Updates (NCPDP Members)


Pharmacist Consult Note (Scott)

  • - Scott has final version and version with revision markers
    • believe all reconciled comments have been voted on 
    • followup with Scott

Pharmacy Templates

  • - Block vote status?
    • John Hatem will follow up with Giorgio for status
  • - John to follow up with Giorgio

Specialty Medication Enrolment IG

  • - Jean Duteau will be scheduling calls:
  • - had public reconciliation call - made it through 14 of 16 comments
    • 2 remaining still under review - expect to be completed this week
    • reached out to Ioana on one final one
    • aim to resolve last couple on Thursday - block vote to be presented next week
    • will likely cancel Dec 22nd meeting - not in calendar

Trackers - Pharmacy Tracker Dashboard (see trackers for details / resolutions)

  • FHIR-39319 - Getting issue details... STATUS  
    • discussion tended to not agree with Rik, but the description for Dosage.text needs to be clarified.  Persuasive with Modification.  
    • considerable discussion on what the appropriate description is, what is the intent of Dosage.text
    • an interim definition included in comment, although we are not in full agreement 
    • - John and Melva to work on wording and present at upcoming meeting
  • Conditional dose extension - needs to be more prominent - add a tracker (Melva)

Any Other Business

  • discussion on MedicationAdministration.performer.device.  who set the parameters, when set, when changed.
    • Stephen will follow up with Orders
      • still to be done
  • Meeting schedule through December
    • will hold meeting on Dec 19th
    • cancel Dec 26 and Jan 2
  • ONC HITAC voted for 2023 to create Pharmacy Interoperability Task Force - stay tuned for more information

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