Chair:  Christol Green

Scribe: Robin Isgett  


Antitrust Statement

Professional Associations, such as HL7, which bring together competing entities are subject to strict 
scrutiny under applicable antitrust laws. HL7 recognizes that the antitrust laws were enacted to promote 
fairness in competition and, as such, supports laws against monopoly and restraints of trade and their 
enforcement. Each individual participating in HL7 meetings and conferences, regardless of venue, is 
responsible for knowing the contents of and adhering to the HL7 Antitrust Policy as stated in §05.01 of 
the Governance and Operations Manual (GOM).

NOTE: This attendance applies if you are present at the related meeting/call, regardless if you have signed a different attendance for your WG. 

Attendees

Present

Name

Affiliation

xinterim co-chair
xPeter Gunter interim co-chair
x
x
x
x@Xavier Salvador
xSmile Digital Health
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
xAlexandra Goss 


Minutes Approved as Presented 


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HL7 

Antitrust Statement

Professional Associations, such as HL7, which bring together competing entities are subject to strict 
scrutiny under applicable antitrust laws. HL7 recognizes that the antitrust laws were enacted to promote 
fairness in competition and, as such, supports laws against monopoly and restraints of trade and their 
enforcement. Each individual participating in HL7 meetings and conferences, regardless of venue, is 
responsible for knowing the contents of and adhering to the HL7 Antitrust Policy as stated in §05.01 of 
the Governance and Operations Manual (GOM).

Christol read Antitrust statement.
Management

Minutes Approval 10/25/2022 

Approved minutes by consensus.
Management

New Proposals and PSS for review - PIE comments or interest

  1. Project Proposals 
  2. Project Scope Statements
    1. PSS-2126 - Getting issue details... STATUS

PSS-2126 Retrieval of Immunization Data via Bulk FHIR.  PIE WG commented no participation at this time.


Management

HL7 email 10/19: 

Co-chairs,

The TSC has received a request for the merger of the Modeling and Methodology work group with the FHIR-I work group. As part of this work group merger process, the Modeling and Methodology work group is being dissolved. Per the HL7 Governance and Operations Manual, a vote of all work groups must be held to move forward with the dissolution of a work group. We have established a Confluence page where you can document your work groups decision (agree or disagree) on this matter. This page includes information on how to cast your work groups vote along with a copy of the dissolution request form.

https://confluence.hl7.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=139668469

This vote will remain open until the end of day, Sunday November 6th unless the vote has not achieved quorum (60% of all work groups voting) at that point, in which case the vote will be extend until it reaches quorum.

Regards, Austin Kreisler

TSC Chair

FM Vote not to approve last week:

  • FM supports the comments of O&O below. FM is not opposed to making FHIR-I the FHIR methodology group with limited additional domain content responsibility. The co-chairs of FHIR-I should not include members with concurrent HL7 management or governance responsibilities. FM does not support the transfer of the remaining MnM responsibilities to TSC as this would violate the separation of concerns regarding management, methodology and governance and is not populated with the skill sets to support this work. Suggest dispersing the work amongst other committees such as INM, ITS, SOA etc. For example, to combine within existing committees the abstract and concrete specification activity.

2022-11-01 PIE WG did review suggestion of dissolution of MnM and move to FHIR-I.  Not being involved in MnM we would like to abstain.  Chris made a motion to approve vote to abstain, Alix seconded it.

Vote:  14-0-0 to abstain.


Dental - Greg Z

VOCABULARY:    New Code System needed for Surface Codes: 

Existing:  HL7.TERMINOLOGY\Surface Codes - FHIR v4.0.1

CREATE a new Code System

  1. Create a new code system
    • with the values below and add F, Facial, The surface of a tooth facing the lips or cheek.
    • Yes there are 2 codes with the same definition. F is used in the US only, V is used in all other countries.
      • Countries that follow ISO or FDI use "V"

2.  Create a US value set that includes all except the "V"

3.  Create a FDI value set that includes all except the "F"

4. The existing code system will then be deprecated

5. will there need to be a naming system entry created? Question for Vocab

Greg explained that the ADA claim form has instructions regarding the field for tooth surfaces.  Mike D. asked about standards that could be referenced.  Greg will look into the ISO standard and report back in two weeks.
Management

HL7 FHIR Connectathon 32  - Registration starts December 1st

IN-PERSON EVENT!

Henderson, Nevada | January 14-15, 2023

9:00 AM ET to 5:00 PM ET

Connectathon reminder.
All

CDex PIE Jira tickets review Weds CDex call

CDex mapping continued

Tracking ID will not be modified.  Mike D. asked why using 5010 in column E instead of 6020.  Mike C. compared 5010 vs 6020 for 275 transaction.  The group will decide if a column should be added for both versions.  Mapping included:

3.  Payer ID - 1000A loop NM109

4.  Payer URL - N/A

5.  Organization ID - 1000B loop NM109 with qualifier 46 ETIN (Electronic Transmitter ID Number).  NOTE:  Needs clarification as to if Organization ID is a submitter ID or Provider.

6.  Provider ID - 1000C loop NM109 with qualifier XX.


Open Floor
No discussion.
 Adjournment


Adjourned at 3:32 PM EST

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