Dial-in Number
| Web session
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Attendees
| Name | Organization |
|---|---|
| Danielle Bancroft (Chair) | |
| Margaret Weiker | NCPDP |
| Corey Spears | MITRE |
| Frank McKinney | POCP |
| Chirstof Gessner | HL7 Germany |
| Phang Mathews | POCP |
| Shelly Spiro | Pharmacy HIT Collaborative |
| Tim McNeil | Surescript |
| John Hatem (Scribe) | Independent Consultant |
Agenda Items and Notes
Meeting Notes from previous meeting
- 2021-07-26 Agenda/Meeting Notes - accepted by general consent
Project Review
Project Proposals
Project Scope Statements
Discussion of MedicationKnowledge and possible issues for CDS
- - Jean
- overlap between MedicationKnowledge and MedicinalProductDefinition
- proposal to remove the "definitional" elements from MedicationKnowledge
- new MedicationKnowledge
- not in the current build yet
- adds .definitional backbone element for those (fewer) elements to retain in MedicationKnowledge
- simplified .ingredient
- .amount is still strange. Needed in Canada. may become a Canadian extention.
- Jean will check with BR&R and then move the new MedicationKnowledge into the current build
- - jean
- responses from Francois Macary and Rick
- issues about if MedicationKnowledge to Medication Definition violates the "back pointer" restriction
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- will move into the main build
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- Brief update by Danielle Bancroft
Catalog Updates (John Hatem)
- - no updates
- - not reviewed
- - no updates
- - no updates - no meeting this week
Workflow Update (John Hatem)
- - no updates
- - not reviewed
- - FHIR-29962 - will evaluate once it is in the build
- - no updates - no meeting this week
Healthcare Product Update (John Hatem)
- - no updates
- - not reviewed
- - no updates
- - no updates
NCPDP Updates (NCPDP Members)
- NCPDP Task Group working on Patient Consent - for specialty prescribing - Frank McKinney
- - meeting on Thursdays - looking at the way to convey the consent needed (with attachment)
- looking at a means to inform prescriber about a patient program being available that would require consent from patient to be involved
- - no update
- - no update
- - no update
- -
- - meeting on Thursdays - looking at the way to convey the consent needed (with attachment)
- Standardized Medication Profile - Standardized Medication Profile Jean Duteau
- - at NCPDP Standardization Committee for review - looking at word smithing
- will bring back to HL7 - to see if they can be incorporated or if held for Version 2
- - no update
- - Scott to check status of publication
- - Melva and Scott to look at the new version and do a publication request
- - no update this week
- - at NCPDP Standardization Committee for review - looking at word smithing
- MTM - create FHIR IG Scott M. Robertson
- - not reviewed
- - no update
- - on hold - linked to MCC eCare Plan work
- - no update
- RealTime Pharmacy Benefit Check for Consumers (Tim McNeil/Frank McKinney)
- - not reviewed
- - no update
- - no update
- - ongoing discussion in NCPDP, will come back with results of the discussion in a future conf call
- Consultant Pharmacist Task Force - will be creating a guidance document for consultant note on the FHIR IG - Scott/Shelly
- - not reviewed
- - drafting an update to the Guidance Document on using the CCDA Consult Note for Pharmacist Consults. Will include CCDA on FHIR.
- - needs a project proposal if it is coming in to HL7 - Scott
- - no update
Global Supply Chain Project (Scott)
- - not reviewed
- - no update
- - there has not been a call
- - no update
Medication List guidance project
- - to be discussed during next call July 12, 2021.
- - not reviewed
- - John Hatem has been working on this, but is not on today's call
- - will get back to this in late August
- - expect this to be discussed in late August
PDex Formulary
- - Corey
- working from email from Corey to Jean
- query for resources related in PDex (e.g., Lists, MedicationKnowledge) uses _profile.
- Not a preferred method.
- retooled to use List.code.
- MedicationKnowledge?PlanID:missing=false (assuming the serversupports it)
- Retrieve all PlanIDs by querying the CoveragePlan (List profile) then query MedicationKnowledgee with the retrieved PlanIDs
FHIR-31683 - Can't query Lists that are CoveragePlan Profiles TRIAGED
- motion to accept (Jean/Corey) 6-0-0 passes
- motion to accept (David/Corey) 6-0-0 passes (get Corey's email)
- RxNorm search concerns
- current recommendation focuses on SCD
- difficult to find specific product, dose form, etc
- need to expand the guidance on RxNorm, but need a pharmacist with RxNorm knowedge
- Scott will send a query to list, will assist until someone is available
- this will wrap up the STU update.
- Will not be voting next week on the STU update
- Expect to projected date completion (for WG vote) at next call
- emailed message, nothing to discuss today. Working on issues/wording
- - 2 remaining tickets to address
- will start STU update process
- review Issues that will be included next week
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- Discussed documentation related to searches - see trackers 32958 and 32959
- Searches require the use of RxNORM terms. Document discussed will be shared and added to the minutes.
- One suggestion was to update the existing document to add support for RxNORM terms: GPCK and BPCK
- Another suggestion was to create a new tracker to ask for an update to the RxNORM guidance in FHIR. Corey will take the initial step to create the tracker.
- Another issue was related to "when" the next list of trackers that been resolved can be put into an STU update.
- Corey will communicate with the pharmacy co-chairs the list of trackers and ask specific questions about when this update can occur.
- Corey all raised an issue about which WG owns this work - currently it is Financial Management and another WG, but not Pharmacy.
- Corey will communicate with the pharmacy co-chairs his concerns.
- Discussed documentation related to searches - see trackers 32958 and 32959
FHIR (Group)
Trackers - link to pharmacy unresolved Jira trackers
Any Other Business
Next meeting
- August 9, 2021 - 4pm Eastern