Chair: Mark Scrimshire

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Implementer Resources

See Supporting section below!



Sept Connectathon

Is now set for 9/13-9/15


Today

FQA

Did not get to review it this week due to the CMS Connecthaton



2021 CMS HL7® FHIR® Connectathon Track Readout

Readout Recording from today

CMS Connectathon CConMan: http://conman.clinfhir.com/connectathon.html?event=cms

Last 3 days at CMS Connectathons. approximately 1200 participants and PDex was well represented. 

Monday- have session with CMS, presenting payer to payer exchange. Tuesday- overview of IG and RI and testing. Wednesday- over the payer to payer exchanges. Thursday- deep dive on the RI and testing on suite of PDex test scripts. Focus on CMS mandate for 7/1/21. 

Feedback was positive. About 90 participants at this specific track.

Provider directory- had questions from providers, had some via chat and zulip. Lots of interest in the implementation of the provider directory and questions on how locations search works. Discussion from other implementators on how to do it on their end. 

Formulary- on education of the IG, had about 83 participants. Several questions came up on formulary and identifiers of plans (which there are no standards from but mostly left to the organization). Concern that this may be difficult to implement. Question on the border of the IG, not including med list. Query to search for drugs that are part of the formulary and not specific to what they are taking. Other means of doing it with EHR by US Core.  Number of comments in testing as many were observers (showing RI). 

  • Had questions from one participants that is being looked at, may have good information for STU2 version.

Number of persons wanting to know how to get more involved in the HL7 process. 

Benefit of CMS connectathon, that it was able to reach a wider audience. 

In terms of testing- let testing on Patient Access API session but had interacting on the the provider directory. Many people were new on how to interact with FHIR server and how to make a query. Last day of testing had more participants and interactions. The member matching query had some pass and some fails. 

Many great questions on the zoom chat. May be ideal to get that transcript. 

CARIN Alliance panel made an announcement to have a directory, lightweight solution, maintain a list found in Github that anyone can submit to , as a way to start the discovery process. Crowd source endpoints for third party to connect. 

https://carinfhirdirectory.com/

Is a survey monkey that pulls it into a file and placed into GitHub. 

Tone Southerland (OneRecord)

heres the github: https://github.com/onerecord/carinfhirdirectory

(Note- not endorsing CARIN but provide available options)

Consumer side- a lot of items that can be reused from the Payer to Payer and Patient Access API. How can we reuse the Patient Acess API for the payer to payer. May be great to add for the Sept connecthaton. From payer perspective- you have done the heavy lift of identifying the US Core data and converting it to FHIR. Only certain payers are involved in the payer to payer exchange, not across industry. Best to use the Patient Access API for it than build a whole new system. 

Bob- had ONC FAST directory- working on a national directory, looking at Pdex directory. 



Implementor question
  • What is current thinking around Payer to Payer?

Bob- biggest issue is related to HIPAA and consent. API -member goes through a portal and gets a token to get the information exchange. Limitations that small number of people have portal accounts. 

Have asked CMS questions. Is this more toward an operation issues? Is attesting to new plan to have data moved sufficient for consent? 

  • Has anyone standardize the exchange?

Use the PDex clinical API from the Patient Access API. Requirement is USCDI not entire Patient Access API. 

  • How do we round up payers to be interoperable? 

Because the CMS mandate did not specify using a API but have guidance that API is encouraged. The payers involved in the payer to payer exchange requirement are also required to be compliant with the Patient Access API. CMS points to USCDI and USCore. 

Patient Access API is required to incorporate data into the patient profile. If building a FHIR repository and getting FHIR data, and may not need to add it to the infrasctructure. 

Take a look at the FAQ here.

If you have received the structure data and need to incorporate into the patient record. 



Chat comment

Tone Southerland (OneRecord) 

One reason payers are looking for simplified solutions for P2P (ie. S3 bucket/ftp) could be that the patient access api work is based on their well-known existing internal data model. Whereas incorporating new mappings is not light-weight work for some organizations. A step one could be to meet the bare bones of the reg, and adapt that solution later to incoporate the data into the payer's data model, and then it could be exported as part of the existing patient access api solution.

Mapping may be internal and external. 



Formulary Ticket updates (If time)


 Discussion Update from Formulary Searching challenges: Ingredient vs. Name, Generic vs. Brand, Form included, combination drugs when searching ingredient, Drug Alternatives.  Corey is writing language to outline what the standard expects from server vs. app, what is supported, what's the responsibility of Pharma / Regs.  

Relevant tickets: FHIR-32958 and FHIR-32959

Move to next week. CMS connecthaton has delayed it. Once this is done, it will wrap all the STU1 items and need to review all before bringing it to pharmacy WG. Hold 30 minutes for next meeting. Next step is sending it to FM to approved.



Plan Net tickets 








Next Week

Implementer Support

Review FAQ Proposed Responses 

Plan Net Feedback- DaVinci Plan Net (Directory) STU Balloting Dashboard - In the coming weeks, we'll begin reviewing open JIRA Trackers that may help implementers.



 Adjournment

Adjourned at 10:54pm EST.






Outline Reference

Supporting Document

Minute Approval
PDex Companion Guides

PDex IG Companion Guide List

PDex IG Companion Guide - Laboratory Reporting Resources

CARIN CPCDS to US Core Mapping

Latest draft CARIN CPCDS Mapping document: CARIN Mapping to FHIR interim 2020 0818 v2.xlsx

DRAFT - PDEX US Core Mapping from CPCDS source: ResourceMappingUSCoreCPCDS-2020-05-29-v26.xlsx

PDex - US Core
inter-relationship

Source PowerPoint: PDEXandUSCoreRelationship.pptx

Da Vinci is seeking answers to open questions and clarifications needed on the implementation and operational needs of the upcoming CMS Patient Directed API Rules.

Find initial questions and corresponding answers shared from our colleagues at CMS here

  • Links to Published IGs
Other Links:

Implementer Resources

Da Vinci Implementer Support Page 

Implementers can take advantage of tools: See the Reference links on the Payer Data Exchange (PDex) page to access links for Reference Implementations, sandboxes, test scripts, and more!

Da Vinci PDex for Patient Access API Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

CMS Final Rule Questions and Answers log

ONC FAST National Healthcare Directory (including end points) solution page that includes links to everything (solution doc, Connectathon, HL7 workgroup, etc.): https://oncprojectracking.healthit.gov/wiki/display/TechLabSC/National+Healthcare+Directory

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Attendees - 31

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CMS
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BCBST
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Deepthi ReddyMettle Solutions
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Allscripts
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Eric SullivanInovalon
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MITRE
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India DuncanOptum
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Availity
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Susan LestinaAHA
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Bob BowmanCAQH
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Thomas KesslerCMS
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Patrick Edwards
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Briana BarnesScope Info Tech
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Kishore MetlaMettle Solutions
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John Donnelly

Intepro Solutions

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Lorraine DooCMS
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Melanie JonesCMS
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Rim Cothren
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Yolanda VillanovaCMS
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Manoj KumarBCBSFL
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MITRE
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Srinivas KonchadaCentene Corporation
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Sheryl TurneyAnthem
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Helina Gebremariam
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Mike NovalesBCBSIL
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Ric LightHumana
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Ann GallagherOptum
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Chris KlesgesMitre
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Adam GronskyHealth Fidelity
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CaseNet
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Anthem
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CMS
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eClinicalWorks
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Healow
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Interfaceware
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Mark RucciSpectramedix
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Anthem
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Cindy MonarchBCBSM
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Michael Kim
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Jim CatanAccenture
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BCBSA
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Jia Chen
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Robert Dieterle
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Jeff Eastman
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Ernestine Cooper
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Jason TeepleCIGNA
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Lloyd McKenzie
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Mary Winter
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Rachel E. Foerster
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Tom GrannanAzuba
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Tony BensonBCBS AL
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Rakesh Mathew

Independence BC
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Henry ArchibongInovalon
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HL7 Consultant
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Abdul Sattar
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Anirudh Choudhary
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Todd BiskeESI
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Darrell Woelk
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Doug Stoss
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Rick LisseveldAegis
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LakshminarayananSaravanan
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Laurie BurckhardtWPS Health Plan
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Kevin LynchInovalon
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Joseph MinieriMITRE
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Durwin Day BCBS IL
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Daniel Lilavois


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Patricia R Harbin


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Pamela West
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Ravi Thakkar Aetna
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UO
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Shalabh Gautam

Aetna
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Swati NandaAetna CVS Health
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Cyrus
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Kevin
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Kamaraj Kaliaperumal, 

Carefirst

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MITRE
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Fred HarmonReady Computing
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Bhanu Vemuri 

Blue Cross NC
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Michael RyanNCQA
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Narasimha Murthy

Accenture

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Google Cloud Healthcare

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Maggie Mellon

HealthSparq
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Courtney Bland

CVS/Aetna
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Dorothy LeeNCQA
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Khoa Nguyen
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Suma AddagaddeBCBSNC
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Caitlyn CampiFL Blue
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Diane Bengtson
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Sean MahoneyMITRE
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Balaji
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Richard Lisseveld
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Shanna HartmanCMS
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Kevin DayEdifecs
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Sai BagewadiCognizant
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Kechia Scott
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Kerri Wing 
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Krithika KumarAccenture
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Don Zacharia
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Evernorth
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Pamela MaklariCognizant
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@David BradsherBenMedica
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@DJ Gallagher
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@Follis 
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@Nidhi
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@Emily Lozada
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Bruce Schreiber
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Ed HafnerWEDI / Change Healthcare
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Alberto S. LlanesFEHRM
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Danny Lacovou

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Nancy SpectorAMA
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Bruce WilkinsonBenMedica
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Avality
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Chris Johnson

BCBSAL
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MCG
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ONC
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Surescripts
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NCPDP
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Anupam ThakurBCBSFL
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Jonathan HutchinsBCBST
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Anthem
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Sunitha Godavarthi
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Christopher Gracon

Independent Health

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Labcorp
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James DerricksonIntersystems
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Cognizant
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Neetha JosephCognizant
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Scott M. Robertson

Kaiser Permanente
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MITRE
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Rutika
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Express Scripts
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Brody BrodockAllscripts
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Michael BrodyCME Online
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Theressa BaumannBCBS AL
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Mona ChandrapaleClinicalWorks
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Optum
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Aakash DeliwalaeClinicalWorks
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Mayo
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Epic
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Shaheer
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Stanley Nachimson
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Anthony SmithUNC Health
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Howard Cohen
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Minaei BehnazFDA
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BCBSA
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Shilesh Nairgdit
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NewWave
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MaxMD
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BC Idaho
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Edward CastagnaAltarum
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Andrea KentCoverMyMeds
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Carrie Denny
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Kim Pham
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Celine LefebvreAMA
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Edifecs
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Josh LambUPMC
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Keya ShahCasenet
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Gevity
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MITRE
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Mrugen MehtaeClinicalWorks
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Revathi Jayakumuar
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Supriya
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Bapi Bhera
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Matt DyerVyne
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Sree Vijetha VegiC-HIT
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BCBSA
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Rich BlochLumedic
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Cigna
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Paul Knapp
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Ron UrwongseCAQH
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Anand Raghavan

Inovalon

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HealthLX
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David Clowers


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Ezequiel MoralesCigna Evernorth
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Frank McKinney
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Hanna ?
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Brett Rauschke
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Carolyn McKinney
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Clarissa WinchesterBCBS AL
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JC
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HealthShare Exchange (HSX)
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River Wong
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Rob McClureMD Partners
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Ronald WamplerCVS Health Aetna
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Derrick Woolridge
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Beata Ferraiz
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Ed DonaldsonConsultant with Humana
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Julie Burgoon
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Mark NeumuthAetna
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Raj SankuratriAetna
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Anthony Omosule

Accenture

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Dr. Cheryl D. LohmanGermantown, MD | Family Physician
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Barbara Valeno
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Eshaa Dhalleclinicalworks
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Angie Brandon
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Bryan Briegal
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ACP
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Beatrice Thompson CVS Health
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Hema Srinivasa
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Kristin AshbyAetna
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Nag Sanivarapu
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Abhishek Pandey
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Shailesh Prabhu
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Travis HendrixDr. First
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Zakir Guler
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Jason VanderJagtedifecs
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Erika Wagner
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Shamil Nizamov
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Michael Robinson
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Christopher Marchand
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Chris Busch
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Nathaniel Hosenpud
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Christopher RoedockerSKYGEN
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Jeff BrownMITRE
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Sid
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Nehal Amin
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Amit Cudykier
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C45214
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Noah Lincoff
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Yukta Bellani Evernorth/Cigna
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Brian SchoonoverOptum
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Tone SoutherlandOneRecord
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@Ram Optum
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@Callie Phillips
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Kat SobelNCQA
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Phung Matthews
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Benji Graham
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Daniel Venton
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@Grace Stambaugh
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Donnielle Williams
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Rob Brull
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Eric Liu, PharmD, MBA