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Subcommittee Lead: Jessica Bota 

Supporting TSMG Co-Chair: Reuben Daniels 

Date/Time:  

Tuesday 8:00-9:00PM UTC

Tuesday 4:00-5:00PM USA EDT

Wednesday 6:00-7:00AM AEST

Wednesday 9:00-10:00AM NZDT 

See https://www.hl7.org/concalls/CallDirectory.aspx for meeting details.


Attendees

Attendee type:

M - TSMG Member

O -Observer / Guest

Attendance:

P - present

A - Apologies

X - (Apologies with Proxy)

Name

Affiliation

M (Co-Chair)

P

Reuben DanielsSaludax
M

P

Jess Bota

Apelon, Inc.
M

Lisa Nelson

MaxMD
MP

Michael Faughn

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
M
Davera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research
M (CSDO)

Dan Vreeman

HL7 International
O


Ted Klein

Klein Consulting
O

P

Marc Duteau 

HL7 International
OP

Joan Harper

Canada Health Infoway
O

John Snyder

National Library of Medicine
O

Rob Hausam

MITRE
O

Alex Kontur

ONC
O
Ravi KafleWashington State Department of Health
O
Abdullah RafiqiICF
O
Hope GrayUAB - Birmingham, HL7 Intern
O
Martha JonesGeorge Mason, HL7 Intern

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Agenda Topics

Meeting was recorded

Agenda Outline

Time Allocation

Lead

Agenda Item
Administrative5JB
  • Rollcall & Proxies
  • Note that meetings are recorded
  • Agenda check
Status10JB
  • Progress continues to be made on integrating automated IG publisher validation into UTG process
New Business30 JB/RD
  • Handling THO anchored content in the FHIR spec FHIR-37440 - Getting issue details... STATUS  
    • Michael has completed an initial review 
      • Assumption is that resources will share <id> (we know this isn't a rule but we need something to link the resources)
      • There are 42 code systems anchored in THO that are only in the FHIR core specification
        • Need to do same analysis for value sets
        • Assume they need to be moved but would like to finish analysis
      • There are 72 code systems and 190 value sets that are potential duplicates across THO/FHIR
        • Discuss how to address changes across the following code system elements:
          • meta.lastUpdated (all) - not consequential
          • date (all) - not consequential
          • url - once moved, should all be anchored in tho
          • experimental (19) - we assume that all code systems may have been set to false upon moving to THO but this requires verification
          • title (23)
          • valueSet (70)
          • meta.profile (62) - not consequential
          • description (22)
          • publisher (18) - not consequential
          • name (8) - consequential, involve WGs if needed
          • contact (18)
          • status (17)
          • oid (25) - consequential and require cleanup, need to understand how this is happening from Grahame as there are duplicate OIDs across and within THO and FHIR (urn:oid:2.16.840.1.113883.4.642.1.0)
          • property (1)
          • hierarchyMeaning (1)
          • extensions
            • telecom
            • standards status
            • workgroup
            • fmm
          • concepts (18) - consequential, involve WGs if needed
        • Discuss how to address changes across the following code system elements:
          • name (29)
          • oid (5)
          • status (19)
          • standards-status (10)
          • title (63)
          • description (25)
          • normative-version (1)
          • experimental (159)
          • immutable (123)
          • compose.include.system (19)
          • date (180)
          • extensions 
            • fmm (25)
    • Goal is to get a list of resources we consider duplicates or easily categorizable fixes (only have non-consequential differences) and then a list of duplicate resources that need to be consolidated/resolved
      • Grahame can handle the duplicates and WGs will need to be involved in the resources that need consolidation
  • Education session for WGM (Monday lunch slot for FHIR committers)
    • Should be clear about where resources should live
    • For required bindings, the value set and associated code system should live in the FHIR spec
Subcommittee Work in Progress15JB/RD
  • THO cleanup
    • These tickets have approval from TSMG to proceed in UTG
      • Fix the "All HL7 Code Systems" tab to exclude external content UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Add tabs for deprecated content (based on deprecation task force) UP-321 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • Add subtabs to categorize identifier systems
      • Add profiles and extensions to THO
      • List resources by title (currently name)
  • Execution of Deprecation representation and policy in UTG/THO
    • Deprecation Policy Framework documents policy and next steps
    • Immediate priorities
      • Perform inventory of deprecated content across THO
      • Create tabs where deprecated content exists
        1. Document deprecation and expectations around deprecation on THO subtabs
        2. Must also document retired, as there is often confusion between deprecation and retirement
      • Requested IG Publisher change to render identifier.period for CodeSystem and ValueSet: https://github.com/HL7/fhir-ig-publisher/issues/455
  • Task force recommendation review and implementation (voting, quorums, WG health, etc.): UTG Task Force Recommendations to TSC 
    • Tracked by HSCR-155 - Getting issue details... STATUS and its subtasks
    • Continuing to fill OSG voter slots
      • FMG: John Moerke, Bryn Rhodes, Rob Hausam
      • CMG: Lisa Nelson, Alexander Henket, Marc Duteau
      • V2: Michael Faughn, Frank Oemig, Rob Snelick
    • Will continue to follow-up on filling Realm-based and Vocab OSGs
  • Vocab suggests that TSMG require all code systems to have a Steward
      • Vocab WG to run a query for each code system across FHIR core to identify the resources and their responsible WG(s) for each listed code system.
      • Rob Hausam reached out to Grahame to determine best way to do this
      • Might be able to use binding to determine steward by mining it out from resource that is referencing it
   Adjournment0 JBCall adjourned at 4:XXPM EDT. Next call in two weeks at 4:00PM EDT August 30, 2022.

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