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Attendee type:

H - HTA Member

O - observer

L - liaison

Present

P - present

A - Apologies

Name

Affiliation

HPJulie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP
HP

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

HASusan MatneyIntermountain Health
HASylvia ThunHL7 Germany
H
Carol MacumberClinical Architecture
HPReuben DanielsSaludax
HPDavera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research
L

Wayne Kubick

HL7 (CTO)

L
Suzy RoySNOMED International
O
Andrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
O
Soraya AssarMathematica
O
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
O
Jessica BotaApelon
OPRob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
LPRob McClureUS Realm Liason
O
Carmela CoudercVocab WG CoChair
OPGrahame GrieveHL7 International

Minutes of Teleconference 2020-08-05 

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Agenda Outline

Agenda Item

StatusLead

Meeting Minutes from Discussion

Management

Quorum

Minutes Approval

N/AJulie

Quorum is met

Motion to approve Minutes proposed

Roel moves, Devera seconds: Motion 2-0-0

ManagementPlanning for September Virtual WGMOngoingJulie

This is a reminder ** Not requiring further discussion

HL7’s Virtual Plenary & Working Group Meeting from September 21-25

Currently scheduled (via the Doodle website):

  • HTA (Open) Tuesday 22 September - two "slots" between 19.00-23.00 BST (I think); we can choose when to meet within that range; will aim for 19.00-21:00 BST (14.00-16.00 EST)
  • HTA with Vocab Wednesday 23 September - two slots 2-3pm EST - focus on UTG and 3-4pm EST 

Tripartite HTA-Vocab-FHIR-I - to check/confirm 6-8pm EST Thursday 24 September (not required for Europeans to attend since it is at midnight)

Topics to include

    • Code System Maintenance
    • When is a code system not a code system
    • Managing externally sourced artefacts in UTG
TopicNew PSSContinuousJulie

No new PSS currently

TopicGOM changesUpdateJulie

Email sent to GOC, who are "forwarding our comments to the EC for consideration" (ref. email to HTA List 2020-07-28 22:08 BST)

Julie to check in a couple of weeks' time if any further feedback

TopicExternal SDO Issues or additional topicsContinuous

Carol and Suzy Roy 


Update on LOINC Licencing discussion


Topic

External Code Systems 


Continuous

1) DICOM 

  • 19-Aug-2020:
    • Carol has made updates and . Roel has had a look at them and agrees on them.

2) NCI-Thesaurus (https://confluence.hl7.org/display/TA/National+Cancer+Institute+-+Thesaurus)

3) LOINC

  • 19-Aug-2020:
    • Meeting between HL7 and LOINC
    • Rob H and Reuben met with LOINC (Swapna and others) on Tuesday, 17 August 2020.
    • Parties agreed to short and long term goals in relation to the Using LOINC with FHIR page – http://build.fhir.org/loinc.html.
    • LOINC wants to get the copyright statement and other items fixed – Rob is working on this now. 
TopicCopyright StatementsNewJulieGrahame's emails
TopicCode system "stub" creationOngoingCarol/ReubenDo we need to do any more on this?
TopicCommunicating ChangeOngoingWayne

Do we need to do any more on this?


TopicUpdate to new PSS ProcessUpdateJulie

Response from Melva; will send us a screen shot when implemented.

Will keep the request regarding the NIB on file

TopicUTG UpdateContinuousCarol/Jess
TopicIssue with NUCCNewTed/Rob McC

NUCC HIPPA Value Sets

For V3 value sets using NUCC, there are enumerated values (even if an intensional definition - e.g. all children of level 1 concepts").  Codes have changed....and value sets are now not generating correctly.  The value set stewards are responsible to updates, but there is currently a set of erroneous value sets from NUCC for core MIF content. Gail Kochar is responsible for NUCC but currently it is not behaving as a "well behaved code system".  
Rob H has some responsibility as maintainer of the terminology server for the FHIR build 

RobMc/Ted/RobH to sort and report back

AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/AJulie

Call adjourned at xx.00 BST

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