Chair: Caroline Macumber

Scribe:

Date/Time:

Tuesday, Dec 6th, 8:30-10:00PM UTC

Tuesday, Dec 6th, 3:30-5:00 PM USA ET

Wednesday, December 7, 7:30-9:00AM (next day) AEST

Wednesday, December 7, 9:30-11:00AM NZDT

Attendees

Attendee type: M - TSMG Member O -Observer / Guest	Attendance: P - present A - Apologies X - (Apologies with Proxy)	Name	Affiliation
M (Co-Chair)		Caroline Macumber(CM)	Clinical Architecture
M (Co-Chair)		Davera Gabriel (DG)	The Johns Hopkins University
M (Co-Chair)		Reuben Daniels (RD)	Saludax
M (CSDO)		Daniel Vreeman (DV)	HL7 International
M (TSMG Rep to the TSC)		Rob McClure (RM)	MD Partners, Inc.
M	X - Proxy to Reuben	Bryn Rhodes (BR)	Alphora
M		Jessica Bota (JB)	Apelon, Inc.
M		Lisa R. Nelson (LN)	MaxMD
M		Michael Faughn (MF)	National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)
M	X - Proxy to Reuben	Peter Jordan (PJ)	HL7 New Zealand
M		Roel Barelds (RB)	Precipius b.v.
M		Sylvia Thun (ST)	HL7 Germany
O		Grahame Grieve (GG)	Health Intersections
O		Joan Harper (JH)	Canada Health Infoway
O		Patrick McLaughlin (PM)	National Library of Medicine
O		Robert Hausam (RH)	Hausam Consulting LLC
O		Suzy Roy (SR)	SNOMED International
O		Cara Schlegel (CS)	ICF
O		Robert Hausam (RH)	MITRE
O		Joe Flack	Johns Hopkins BIDS
O		Carmela A. Couderc (CC)	Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONC)
O		John Snyder	National Library of Medicine (US)
O		Ted Klein	TK Consulting
O		Lloyd Mackenzie	Accenture
O		Ravi Kafle	Washington State Department of Health
O		Doug DeShazo	LexisNexis
O		MaryKay McDaniel	FM/Markam
O		Corey Spears	MITRE
O		John Spinosa	Lantana
O		Harold Solbrig	Mayo
O		Joe Amlung	Reginstrief
O		Martha Jones	HL7 Intern
O		Riki Merrick	Vernetzt, LLC
O		Gaurav Vaidya
O		Emily Pfaff	UNC
O		Eric Prudhommeaux	Janeiro Digital
O		David Booth	Yosemite Project
O		Jim Balhoff	UNC
O		Christian Reich	OHDSI
O		John Carter
O		Marc Duteau

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Minutes Approved as Presented

WGM

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Agenda Topics

Meeting was recorded. Note items in RED below are deferred due to lack of time

Agenda Outline	Time allocation	Lead	Agenda Item
Administration	10	RD	Announcements Upcoming Meeting Schedule (Quorum is 6 attendees + 1 co-chair) 12/13 - Carol and Reuben out 12/20 - Canceled 12/27 - Canceled 1/3 - Davera and Reuben out 1/10 - Meet, final prep prior to WGM 1/17 - WGM TSMG Membership (notes from last meeting) Unless changes are made to TSMG membership rules (by TSC), under current 1 and 2 year terms rules, propose that seats have alternating terms. Meaning, the new members take on two year terms (which were one year term seats prior). When current 2 year members cycle out (Carol, Reuben, Michael , those seats would become 1 year terms in their renewal, and so on). Jan 2023-Dec 2024, current members who had 1 year term, now 2 year terms (3): Roel, Michael, Davera Jan 2023-Dec 2025, new members filling a 2 year term seat (3): Ioana. John and Chantal Through Dec 2023, current members with two year term (4): Carol, Reuben, Bryn, Lisa DG Moves this renewal pattern be accepted. CM seconds. Motion passes 7-0-0
PSS Needing External Review		All	None
TSMG Standing Subcommittee Updates
HL7 Terminology / Unified Terminology Governance (THO/UTG)	As needed	JB/RM/CC	Terminology expectations for IG developers Terminology Expectations for IG Developers (Simplified) TSMG membership was asked to weigh-in on any outstanding issues by Friday (2Dec22). Barring any additional comments to be resolved, this version of the policy will be sent to TSC for approval CM will send the Clean draft for TSC consideration located here: Terminology Expectations for IG Developers (Draft For Consideration) RM will help track request for time on the TSC agenda to provide a walk-though of this policy
HL7 Terminology / Unified Terminology Governance (THO/UTG)	10	RD/JB	Technical correction for THO due to issues with OIDs (see notes from Vocab call here 2022-12-01 Vocab WG Call Agenda/Minutes) Duplicate URLs in THO Duplicate URLs in THO for CVX: http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/UTG/CodeSystem-CVX.html vs. http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/UTG/CodeSystem-v2-0292.html We retired the entry from V2, but according to Grahame this will still cause issues with the IG infrastructure getting things wrong He suggests we remove from THO Recommendation from Vocab to TSMG on handling of THO OIDs Review minutes from Vocab: 2022-11-17 Vocab WG Call Agenda/Minutes Review fix for 'All HL7 Code Systems' tab UP-320 - Getting issue details... STATUS Options are to break down by product family or maintain two separate manifests (more work and more prone to error), more details in ticket comment Parking lot and work in progress Workflow for THO releases (moving content approved in ballot to THO AND how to handle missed THO deadline) Requires discussion - priority item to resolve This is a key component of the IG Developer tutorial This item is blocked without the expectations for IG developers policy being developed. 8Nov22 TSMG meeting: deferred Versioning policy for UTG/THO Finished proposal for HL7 Code System elements There are a few higher level considerations before moving over to Value Sets Progressing to finish HL7 Value Sets and moving to External Identifier System Metadata Records Many CodeSystems use terminology.hl7.org urls when they should be hl7.org/fhir FHIR-37440 - Getting issue details... STATUS UTG/THO subcommittee working through differences across elements for duplicates to determine what is consequential Need a follow-up with Grahame Grieve. Will invite him to this week's THO/UTG Subcommittee call.
HL7 Terminology Authority (HTA)			Next meeting on Wed 14 December 3-4pm EASTERN US
Outreach & Education			Vulcan FHIR to OMOP project Track in the January Connectathon validation architecture based on CAMP FHIR Vulcan 101 presentation section (14Dec22) Environmental scan report - started Alignment of Value Sets across product families - with Lisa Nelson Develop standard curriculum requirements for 3 workshops: Intro to FHIR Terminology Advanced FHIR terminology Terminology for IG Developers Write-ups for dissemination (to be developed) Accessing CDCREC Value Set Using ICD-11 on FHIR Terminology Expectations for IG Developers (component of workshop above)
Technical Steering Committee (TSC) matters	10	RM	TSC Membership - (deferred: RM not available today) RM will take to the TSC: 4 year terms, then one year off and establishing 2 alternate members as outlined above RM: update re: proposal from TSMG? in TSC meeting: other management groups had not yet discussed this topic. This will be reviewed in today's (this week's) TSS meeting. Update next week Bryn will bring back this update if RM is not available
Parking Lot			Terminology Server (Implementation Requirement) Follow-up from WGM - next steps re: terminology server (service) requirements (1-page description) Needs to clearly state why we do not have what is needed in the currently available services including THO or tx.fhir.org Jess / Reuben / Rob Hausam/Davera working draft of the document is here initial conclusion for editing period has passed UTG / THO Subcommittee work in progress Vocab WG follow-up: Policy Requiring Identification of Stewards for HL7 (Internal) Code Systems Rob H reached out to Grahame about mining for steward values List of code systems without steward is here
Adjournment

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