Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology (ONC)
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John Snyder
National Library of Medicine (US)
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Ted Klein
TK Consulting
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Minutes Approved as Presented
2022-02-09 TSMG Agenda and Minutes
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Concerns about timing as there are many high priority tasks that require implementation/approval prior to the freeze
Being slowed down by build issues from new IG Publisher update
Ted reports there is some debugging required as of early this am & states
This is causing a problem: <name value="PassportNumNS_AFG"/> this needs to be addressed in order to resolve the ticket below
Jess moving Identifier Systems to THO, Lloyd to help with moving Passport Numbers
Almost complete but ran into build issues:
UP-285
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Getting issue details...STATUS
Reuben moving "Using X with FHIR" pages to THO
15-Feb-2022 Updates
UP-289 pro forma UTG ticket raised and associated branch in bitbucket created.
Issues
The agreed table has a column for links to external Code System Metadata Records in THO. However, some of the code systems with a "Using With FHIR" page do not have corresponding metadata records in THO. Specifically, MED-RT, NCI Metathesaurus, Unique Ingredient Identifier (UNII). Do we simply state that there is no metadata record in for these?
The Using ICD With FHIR page refers to multiple versions of ICD, accordingly there are multiple URI and OID values (depending on the variant). I have opted to not provide a single URI or single OID and stated Check metadata record instead.
The Using NDF-RT With FHIR page (in the FHIR spec) states that NDF-RT should not be used in favour of MED-RT. Accordingly, I will not migrate this page.
ISO-3166 has multiple OIDs and URIs.
Incorrect data in Using With FHIR Pages
Noting that some of the Using X With FHIR pages have information which is in conflict with HTA confluence pages and HTO metadata records, do we correct the FHIR pages?
Errata / typos
Data which refers to part of the FHIR specification e.g. ValueSets which use the particular code system.
Do we correct these now, or in a future release of THO?
Should we have a note which states that if information in the table or in the Using With HL7 Standards pages themselves are in conflict with the a Code System Metadata Record then the Code System Metadata Record is authoritative?
RD: Moves that a statement asserting if there is a conflict between the "Using xxx code system on FHIR pages" and the code system entry in the THO metadata record, that the latter is the authoritative source. Seconded: DG Motion passes 7-0-1
Vocab WG follow-up: Policy Requiring Identification of Stewards for HL7 (Internal) Code Systems
Vocab WG should decide whether THO code systems and value sets should have the steward as mandatory. Would help with knowing who to follow up with in the UTG process.
In Vocab WG - Motion passed: Vocab WG recommends that TSMG implement a rule stating that: Every HL7 code system in THO must have a steward WG. The steward WG has to be one of the WGs that are authorized to propose making changes to an HL7 code system in THO.
THO release schedule
THO was originally designed to be released "on demand" although there has been a recent push to align with ballot cycles
Should ask Dan and Viet to weigh in as it affects the implementation community
RD: suggesting there are 3 dates per year guaranteed, and then provide the flexibility to add additional releases on an ad hoc basis based on community needs.
PJ: there are some changes out of HL7 control like external code systems that may by necessity trigger a release
TK: external code system changes are mostly metadata, the most important component which may rise to the need for a change would be if a url changed
optimally... be dependable but also nimble to be responsible to the community needs
RD: to BR - please ask the TSC about this topic / approach, so TSMG can vote on this next week
15-Feb-2022:
Main points from yesterday's subcommittee call below, more discussion required to determine path forward
There are concerns that HL7 doesn't have the resources to commit to the number of releases (three per year plus ad hoc if needed)
TSC needs additional understanding about tasks and the process for publishing a THO release
Most of it is documented and will be followed for the 3.1.0 release
Release takes about 3 days (i.e., waiting for builds), heads down time is about 8 hours
Very dependent on the IG Publisher, has taken up to 2.5 weeks in the past
Suggestion not to release if not enough changes have been implemented in the CI
THO is changing functionally with each release and is hard to release, that makes it hard to estimate freeze dates
Will be easier to create a schedule once UTG/THO is more stable, then can focus on consistent/reliable delivery
This decisions should involve TSC and HQ
Status updates (no changes from last week)
Onboarding new development resource, Lawrence, to help with Jira automation
Will create business requirements for a UTG Editor
Sprint 2 of UTG Jira development items with a focus on release tracking in progress
Refining current implementation of release tracking