Meeting Information

Meeting ID: 912 9786 9819

Passcode: 594748

Chair:  Reuben

Scribe: Carol

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Attendee type:

T - TSMG Member

O - observer

L - liaison


P - present

A - Apologies

X- Proxy



Julie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

TPSylvia ThunHL7 Germany
TPCarol MacumberClinical Architecture
TPReuben DanielsSaludax
TPDavera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research

Wayne Kubick


Suzy RoySNOMED International
Andrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
TPJessica BotaUTG/Apelon
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
Rob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
Mareike PrzysuchaHL7 Germany
Rob McClureUS Realm Liaison
Rory DavidsonSNOMED International
Diana WrightLantana Consulting Group
Joanie HarperCanada Health Infoway
Carl LeitnerWorld Health Organization (WHO)
Chris MeloPhilips Health Care
Mica CarrICHOM
Sean Muir
OPCorey SpearsMITRE

Minutes of previous teleconference (2021-3-10)

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Agenda Outline

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Meeting Minutes from Discussion



TC Minutes Approval


Quorum (TSMG HTA chair and at least two others) was met

Motion to approve Minutes:

JB moves,  RD seconds: Motion Passes 2-0-0 


UTG/THO Update

ContinuousJess and Reuben

(Moved to end in interest of time)
TopicNew PSS ReviewContinuousCarol

(moved to after JIRA tickets)

PSS-1939 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: DG Moves, JB Seconds: 4-0-0

PSS-2003 - Getting issue details... STATUS

PSS-2007 - Getting issue details... STATUS


External SDO and Code System Issues

(review JIRA tickets

ContinuousCarol/ Reuben

JIRA Dashboard in progress


HTA-25 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Davera Gabriel  to update Human Phenotype Ontology to be consistent with the comments in JIRA and notify Jessica Bota when it's ready to proceed through the UTG THO Process

CARIN BB related Code Systems

HTA-77 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: RD moves DG Seconds:  3-0-0

HTA-78 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: RD moves DG Seconds:  3-0-0

HTA-86 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Record updated as requested

HTA-87 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Record updated as requested


Exists in THO here

HTA-71 - Getting issue details... STATUS is indicating that this is actually two code systems and needs to be split.

HTA has an incomplete metadata page here: HGNC which has been updated

RD: The existing URL is in the normative R4 specification. We could update the metadata information to clarify that the existing code system is meant to represent the gene nomenclature and the associated IDs and create a second code system record to represent the gene nomenclature groups and their IDs. However, before proceeding with that as an option, HTA would 1) like to consult with the code system owner. if this was already done, we would like that information and 2) have CG WG confirm if the use of a prefix would solve the issue and avoid the need to split the normative resource. Another option would be to create a formal FHIR partition for the code system, though not ideal. 

Note that this is used internationally and the impact is potentially large. A single OID exists for this code system and would also need to be addressed if a second code system was registered. 

Reuben Daniels will invite the code system owner to further discuss. 

(Meeting ended here)


Tangram Medical Terminology


HTA-80 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Genotype Ontology (GENO)



  • HTA-69 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Requested additional on how this star rating system would be used as a code system.


  • HTA-70 - Getting issue details... STATUS





    • ST raised that the ICD-10-GM page has disappeared from the HTA's External Terminologies Information Pages. Reuben Daniels will investigate.
    • No update


Updated CS Identifier process guidance

Continued from previousCarol

We are almost through the core principles. Will look into March for the next call as we were not able to find a time in Feb

The draft is located here: Validating and Requesting Identifiers for External Code Systems and Identifier Systems

HTA members and observers are asked to review the drafted text, directly edit where changes are needed and use the comment functionality to ask additional questions. We will review again (and hopefully approve on the next HTA call, which will be at the WGM).

TopicContinued from previousReuben
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.42 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.2 is stated in
    • THO/UTG's ICD-9-CM Code System Metadata Record as the OID for ICD-9-CM
    • the HL7 OID Registry as a retired OID for ICD-9CM with the following note: Note that this has been retired in favor of an explicit split between the diagnosis codes and the procedures codes as per the Vocablary TC decision on Wednesday Q4, January 21, 2004.  Replaced by 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 and 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 as voted by committee.  -T. Klein
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 is stated in
    • the HL7 OID Registry as the OID for ICD-9CM (procedure codes)
  • Requirement:
    • What are the correct OIDs for
      • ICD-9; and
      • ICD-9-CM 
  • Rob McClure to provide an update after checking in with the US Realm group.  No Update

Any Other Business

AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/ARD

Call adjourned at 

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