Meeting Information

https://hl7-org.zoom.us/j/91297869819?pwd=cm81Yk1CQW9uUkQ1Y2FucEI2RU01UT09

Meeting ID: 912 9786 9819

Passcode: 594748

Chair:  Reuben

Scribe: Carol

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Attendees

Attendee type:

T - TSMG Member

O - observer

L - liaison

Present

P - present

A - Apologies

X- Proxy

Name

Affiliation

O
Julie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP
T

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

TPSylvia ThunHL7 Germany
TPCarol MacumberClinical Architecture
TPReuben DanielsSaludax
TPDavera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research
L

Wayne Kubick

HL7 (CTO)

L
Suzy RoySNOMED International
O
Andrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
TPJessica BotaUTG/Apelon
O
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
L
Rob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
O
Mareike PrzysuchaHL7 Germany
T
Rob McClureUS Realm Liaison
O
Rory DavidsonSNOMED International
O
Diana WrightLantana Consulting Group
OPJoel SchneiderNMDP/CIBMTR
O
Joanie HarperCanada Health Infoway
O
Carl LeitnerWorld Health Organization (WHO)
O
Chris MeloPhilips Health Care
O
Mica CarrICHOM
O
Sean Muir
OPCorey SpearsMITRE

Minutes of previous teleconference (2021-3-10)

Agenda Topics


Agenda Outline

Agenda Item

StatusLead

Meeting Minutes from Discussion

Management

Quorum

TC Minutes Approval



N/ACarol

Quorum (TSMG HTA chair and at least two others) was met

Motion to approve Minutes:

JB moves,  RD seconds: Motion Passes 2-0-0 


Topic

UTG/THO Update


ContinuousJess and Reuben

(Moved to end in interest of time)
TopicNew PSS ReviewContinuousCarol

(moved to after JIRA tickets)

PSS-1939 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: DG Moves, JB Seconds: 4-0-0

PSS-2003 - Getting issue details... STATUS

PSS-2007 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Topic

External SDO and Code System Issues

(review JIRA tickets https://jira.hl7.org/projects/HTA/summary

ContinuousCarol/ Reuben

JIRA Dashboard in progress https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13701

HPO

HTA-25 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Davera Gabriel  to update Human Phenotype Ontology to be consistent with the comments in JIRA and notify Jessica Bota when it's ready to proceed through the UTG THO Process

CARIN BB related Code Systems

HTA-77 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: RD moves DG Seconds:  3-0-0

HTA-78 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Motion to approve: RD moves DG Seconds:  3-0-0

HTA-86 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Record updated as requested

HTA-87 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Record updated as requested

HUGO

Exists in THO here https://terminology.hl7.org/NamingSystem-v3-hgnc.html

HTA-71 - Getting issue details... STATUS is indicating that this is actually two code systems and needs to be split.

HTA has an incomplete metadata page here: HGNC which has been updated

RD: The existing URL is in the normative R4 specification. We could update the metadata information to clarify that the existing code system is meant to represent the gene nomenclature and the associated IDs and create a second code system record to represent the gene nomenclature groups and their IDs. However, before proceeding with that as an option, HTA would 1) like to consult with the code system owner. if this was already done, we would like that information and 2) have CG WG confirm if the use of a prefix would solve the issue and avoid the need to split the normative resource. Another option would be to create a formal FHIR partition for the code system, though not ideal. 

Note that this is used internationally and the impact is potentially large. A single OID exists for this code system and would also need to be addressed if a second code system was registered. 

Reuben Daniels will invite the code system owner to further discuss. 

(Meeting ended here)

Tangram

Tangram Medical Terminology

ICOA

HTA-80 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Genotype Ontology (GENO)

SEPIO-CG

CLINVAR-RS

  • HTA-69 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Requested additional on how this star rating system would be used as a code system.

PGKB-ClinAnnLevels

  • HTA-70 - Getting issue details... STATUS

ICPC, ICPC-DAN

Discussion:

ISO-21089

ICD-10-GM

    • ST raised that the ICD-10-GM page has disappeared from the HTA's External Terminologies Information Pages. Reuben Daniels will investigate.
    • No update


Topic

Updated CS Identifier process guidance


Continued from previousCarol

We are almost through the core principles. Will look into March for the next call as we were not able to find a time in Feb

The draft is located here: Validating and Requesting Identifiers for External Code Systems and Identifier Systems

HTA members and observers are asked to review the drafted text, directly edit where changes are needed and use the comment functionality to ask additional questions. We will review again (and hopefully approve on the next HTA call, which will be at the WGM).

TopicContinued from previousReuben
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.42 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.2 is stated in
    • THO/UTG's ICD-9-CM Code System Metadata Record as the OID for ICD-9-CM
    • the HL7 OID Registry as a retired OID for ICD-9CM with the following note: Note that this has been retired in favor of an explicit split between the diagnosis codes and the procedures codes as per the Vocablary TC decision on Wednesday Q4, January 21, 2004.  Replaced by 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 and 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 as voted by committee.  -T. Klein
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 is stated in
    • the HL7 OID Registry as the OID for ICD-9CM (procedure codes)
  • Requirement:
    • What are the correct OIDs for
      • ICD-9; and
      • ICD-9-CM 
  • Rob McClure to provide an update after checking in with the US Realm group.  No Update
Topic

Any Other Business


ContinuousRD
AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/ARD

Call adjourned at 

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