Meeting Information

https://hl7-org.zoom.us/j/91297869819?pwd=cm81Yk1CQW9uUkQ1Y2FucEI2RU01UT09

Meeting ID: 912 9786 9819

Passcode: 594748

Chair:  Carol/Reuben

Scribe: Carol

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Attendees

Attendee type:

H - HTA Member

O - observer

L - liaison

Present

P - present

A - Apologies

X- Proxy

Name

Affiliation

O
Julie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP
HP

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

HPSylvia ThunHL7 Germany
HPCarol MacumberClinical Architecture
HPReuben DanielsSaludax
H
Davera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research
L

Wayne Kubick

HL7 (CTO)

L
Suzy RoySNOMED International
O
Andrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
L
Jessica BotaUTG/Apelon
O
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
L
Rob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
O
Mareike PrzysuchaHL7 Germany
L
Rob McClureUS Realm Liaison
O
Rory DavidsonSNOMED International
O
Diana WrightLantana Consulting Group
O
Joel SchneiderNMDP/CIBMTR
O
Joanie HarperCanada Health Infoway

Minutes of previous teleconference (2021-12-16) 

Agenda Topics


Agenda Outline

Agenda Item

StatusLead

Meeting Minutes from Discussion

Management

Quorum

TC Minutes Approval



N/ACarol

Quorum was met

Motion to approve Minutes:

RD moves, RB seconds: Motion Passes 3-0-0 


Topic

UTG/THO Update


ContinuousJess and Reuben

Non-HTA managed code systems retired in continuous build of THO:  http://build.fhir.org/ig/HL7/UTG/external_terminologies.html

THO changes have been implemented and is a first big step to using THO as the single source of truth.

Next step is to clean up the records and align with new template from HTA confluence pages. 

TSMG has referred a question to TSC around the OID request process, awaiting Rob M's return to act as liaison to TSC.

TopicNew PSS ReviewContinuousCarol

Topic

External SDO and Code System Issues

(review JIRA tickets https://jira.hl7.org/projects/HTA/summary) 

ContinuousCarol/ Reuben

UTG/THO tickets (will be added to THO once approved):

UP-269 - Getting issue details... STATUS

UP-268 - Getting issue details... STATUS

UP-267 - Getting issue details... STATUS

UP-253 - Getting issue details... STATUS

JIRA Dashboard in progress https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13701

AJCC TNM

  • Page approved: AJCC TNM Staging System (TNM)
  • Discuss best way to represent this system in THO
    • The coded concepts are not context free (e.g. code "T2" has different definitions depending upon which cancer you are talking about)
    • Ted Klein has history discussing this system and believes strongly it is not a code system
  • HTA agreed that AJCC TNM has been show to be in production use in many countries and standards (See here for a list within the US ISA https://www.healthit.gov/isa/uscdi-data/cancer-staging-ajcc-tnm, which includes both HL7 and IHE standards).
  • HTA recommends that Vocab collaborate with implementers (and ideally AJCC) to create a "Using AJCC TNM on FHIR" page for inclusion in THO (as the existing pages are planned to be moved there from FHIR)
  • The HTA still contends that there is a separate cancer staging system created by UICC TNM that may also require representation in HL7 products

ISO RGB 

ISCN

  • HTA-65 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Assigned to: Carol Macumber

SO

  • HTA-37 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Approved by HTA

ClinVar Variation ID

  • HTA-42 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Assigned to: Carol Macumber

NCBI Genetic Testing Registry

  • HTA-43 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Assigned to: Carol Macumber

OrphaCode

  • HTA-64 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • Page (old format) exists without identifiers here ORPHANET

ICPC

Discussion:

ISO-21089

ICD-10-GM

    • ST raised that the ICD-10-GM page has disappeared from the HTA's External Terminologies Information Pages. Reuben Daniels will investigate.
    • No update



Topic

Updated CS Identifier process guidance


Continued from previousCarol

We are almost through the core principles. Having issues scheduling a call before holiday break. Will look into January for next call.

The draft is located here: Validating and Requesting Identifiers for External Code Systems and Identifier Systems

HTA members and observers are asked to review the drafted text, directly edit where changes are needed and use the comment functionality to ask additional questions. We will review again (and hopefully approve on the next HTA call, which will be at the WGM).

Topic

FHIR Tracker: OID specified on page for ICD-9CM is registered for ICD-9

Continued from previousReuben
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.42 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.2 is stated in
    • THO/UTG's ICD-9-CM Code System Metadata Record as the OID for ICD-9-CM
    • the HL7 OID Registry as a retired OID for ICD-9CM with the following note: Note that this has been retired in favor of an explicit split between the diagnosis codes and the procedures codes as per the Vocablary TC decision on Wednesday Q4, January 21, 2004.  Replaced by 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 and 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 as voted by committee.  -T. Klein
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 is stated in
    • the HL7 OID Registry as the OID for ICD-9CM (procedure codes)
  • Requirement:
    • What are the correct OIDs for
      • ICD-9; and
      • ICD-9-CM 
  • Rob McClure to provide an update after checking in with the US Realm group.  No Update
Topic

Any Other Business


ContinuousRD
AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/ARD

Call adjourned at 

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