Meeting Information
https://zoom.us/j/98660729671?pwd=Z3VRcSs4RTA1M0tQVGtMUFJBWWd5UT09
Attendee Pass: HTAMeet
Chair: Carol/Reuben
Scribe: Carol
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Attendees
Attendee type: H - HTA Member O - observer L - liaison | Present P - present A - Apologies | Name | Affiliation |
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| O |
| Julie James | Blue Wave Informatics LLP |
| H |
| Roel Barelds | Precipius b.v. |
| H | A | Susan Matney | Intermountain Health |
| H | P | Sylvia Thun | HL7 Germany |
| H | P | Carol Macumber | Clinical Architecture |
| H | P | Reuben Daniels | Saludax |
| H | P | Davera Gabriel | Johns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research |
| L |
| Wayne Kubick | HL7 (CTO) |
| L |
| Suzy Roy | SNOMED International |
| O | P | Andrea MacLean | Canada Health Infoway |
| L | P | Jessica Bota | UTG/Apelon |
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| Ted Klein | Klein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair |
| L |
| Rob Hausam | Vocabulary WG CoChair |
| O |
| Mareike Przysucha | HL7 Germany |
| L | P | Rob McClure | US Realm Liaison |
| O |
| Rory Davidson | SNOMED International |
| O |
| Diana Wright | Lantana Consulting Group |
| O | P | Joel Schneider | NMDP/CIBMTR |
| O | P | Joanie Harper | Canada Health Infoway |
Minutes of previous teleconference (2021-10-20)
Agenda Topics
Agenda Outline | Agenda Item | Status | Lead | Meeting Minutes from Discussion |
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| Management | Quorum TC Minutes Approval
| N/A | Carol | Quorum was met Motion to approve Minutes: RD__ moves, ST__ seconds: Motion Passes 2-0-0 Addition of Antitrust Statement |
| Topic | HTA and TSMG | Continued from previous | Carol | Regarding HTA/TSMG meeting times, the following are current arrangements: - Wednesday, 3 November 2021:
- The HTA meeting will be from 7:00PM-8:00PM UTC call link
- The TSMG meeting will be from 8:00PM-9:30PM UTC
- Wednesday 17 November 2021 and all following Wednesdays:
- The HTA meeting will be from 8:00PM-9:00PM UTC call link – this time change is occurring because the meeting is arranged for 03:00PM Eastern Time and the clocks are switching on Sunday 7 November 2021)
- The TSMG meeting will be from 8:00PM-9:30PM UTC
Discussion: - All members to respond to Doodle Poll
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| Topic | New PSS Review | Continuous | Carol | Check here: https://jira.hl7.org/browse/PSS-1885 - ST mentioned that more death reporting uses ICD-10
- The HTA agreed to support this project proposal and added a note for the project.
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| Topic | External SDO and Code System Issues (review JIRA tickets https://jira.hl7.org/projects/HTA/summary) | Continuous | Carol/ Reuben | UTG/THO tickets: JIRA Dashboard in progress https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=13701
AJCC TNM Discussion: - https://www.uicc.org/resources/tnm
- CM provided responses back to Patrick W
- ST: The two may be one code system.
- RM: AJCC and UICC may be different.
- ST: https://seer.cancer.gov/tools/staging/ajcc-uicc-comparison.pdf
- AM: There are differences between AJCC and UICC.
- ST: "In 2017, the Union for International Cancer Control (UICC) and the American Joint Committee on Cancer (AJCC) published their 8th edition. Unluckily several differences exist between both classifications."
- RM: If possible, representatives from both groups should come together to get clarity on where they align and if they're two different systems. My going in assumption is there are two separate code systems.
- ST: If a code (e.g. C50) gets a new meaning like in ICD-10 it is a new Code System and gets a new OID/URL (at least in Germany).
- DV: Potential solution: We require both the coding system and the version be required in utilisation.
- AM: SNOMED codes (1,010) for TNM staging is being removed at the request of the AJCC.
ICPC Discussion: - CM: Need to know the places where things need to be e.g. THO, tx.fhir.org, HTA pages.
ISO-21089
ICD-10-GM - ST raised that the ICD-10-GM page has disappeared from the HTA's External Terminologies Information Pages. Reuben Daniels will investigate.
CMS Certification Number as an Identifier System
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| Topic | UTG/THO Update
| Continuous | Jess and Reuben | - Analysis of HTA External Terminology pages – Link to Google Sheet
- For discussion: addressing the external terminology pages which do not use the new template (62 of 93 / 67%)
- PLEASE UPDATE ANY THAT YOU CAN FOLKS
- Call to co-chairs to review code systems was made at the beginning of October and they have until the end of October to make requests for code systems to be retained in THO that have not been previously registered with the HTA. The list is shown here
- Responses to date include
- From AMS
This note is written in response to the TSMG request that workgroups review the list of code systems not managed by the HTA and identify from that list the code systems which should be retained and brought under the HTA's management. The Public Health workgroup has identified the following codes systems from the list that should be retained: The list is still under review; it is possible that additional code systems will be identified at a later date. We will also review the metadata associated with each code system and update the metadata as needed. The PHWG agenda for 10/21/2021 includes further discussion on this topic with a primary focus on ODH vocabulary. If a member of the TSMG or HTA is able to join our call (details can be found here) it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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| Topic | Updated CS Identifier process guidance
| Continued from previous | Carol | Out of time: item not discussed. Next meeting is November 11th @ 11 am Eastern. We are almost through the core principles. The draft is located here: Validating and Requesting Identifiers for External Code Systems and Identifier Systems HTA members and observers are asked to review the drafted text, directly edit where changes are needed and use the comment functionality to ask additional questions. We will review again (and hopefully approve on the next HTA call, which will be at the WGM). |
| Topic | | Continued from previous | Reuben | Out of time: item not discussed. - The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.42 is stated in
- The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.2 is stated in
- THO/UTG's ICD-9-CM Code System Metadata Record as the OID for ICD-9-CM
- the HL7 OID Registry as a retired OID for ICD-9CM with the following note: Note that this has been retired in favor of an explicit split between the diagnosis codes and the procedures codes as per the Vocablary TC decision on Wednesday Q4, January 21, 2004. Replaced by 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 and 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 as voted by committee. -T. Klein
- The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 is stated in
- The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 is stated in
- the HL7 OID Registry as the OID for ICD-9CM (procedure codes)
- Requirement:
- What are the correct OIDs for
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| Topic | Any Other Business
| Continuous | Carol | Topic UTG/THO Update Continuous Jess and Reuben - 20 October 2021:
- JB: Once TSMG approves the release, time needs to be scheduled with Grahame for Ted and Grahame to work on the release. Hopefully by the end of October 2021.
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| Adjournment | Meeting adjourned | N/A | Carol | Call adjourned at __4PM___ EST |
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