Meeting Information

Attendee Pass: HTAMeet

Chair:  Carol/Reuben

Scribe: Carol


Attendee type:

H - HTA Member

O - observer

L - liaison


P - present

A - Apologies



Julie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

Susan MatneyIntermountain Health
HPSylvia ThunHL7 Germany
HACarol MacumberClinical Architecture
HPReuben DanielsSaludax
Davera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research

Wayne Kubick


LPSuzy RoySNOMED International
Andrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
LPJessica BotaUTG/Apelon
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
Rob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
Mareike PrzysuchaHL7 Germany
Rob McClureUS Realm Liaison
Rory DavidsonSNOMED International
Diana WrightLantana Consulting Group

Minutes of previous teleconference (2021-09-15) 

Agenda Topics

Agenda Outline

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Meeting Minutes from Discussion



TC Minutes Approval


Quorum was met

Motion to approve Minutes:

RB__ moves, ST__ seconds: Motion Passes 2-0-0 

TopicHTA and TSMGContinued from previousCarol

An off-cycle teleconference was held on 10/18/2021 - minutes here, at which present members agreed to terms by which current HTA membership will become part of TSMG.

Minutes from TSMG calls can be found on the TSMG confluence page located here. HTA members should start to attend those meetings as soon as possible. 

  • RD
    • Provided an overview of HTA, TSC and TSMG week in relation to the HTA becoming part of the TSMG.
  • RB: Consideration should be paid to choosing a new time for the regular TSMG meeting which is more considerate of attendees from Europe. 
TopicNew PSS ReviewContinuousCarol

Check here:

  • ST mentioned that more death reporting uses ICD-10
  • The HTA agreed to support this project proposal and added a note for the project.

External SDO and Code System Issues

(review JIRA tickets


UTG/THO tickets:

    • UP ticket needs HTA approval UP-237 - Getting issue details... STATUS
  • MeSH
    • UP ticket needs HTA approval UP-218 - Getting issue details... STATUS  
  • CVX
    • UP ticket needs HTA approval UP-239 - Getting issue details... STATUS

  • The HTA reviewed and approved the above UP tickets to allow them to be included in the next official release of THO.
    • ST and RB noted that MeSH has non-English translations and advise needs to be provided to address this in THO.
    • RD responded that how we deal with non-English translations of code systems is a matter which the TSMG needs to deal with.



    • ST raised that the ICD-10-GM page has disappeared from the HTA's External Terminologies Information Pages. Reuben Daniels will investigate.

Out of time: items below not discussed.


UTG/THO Update

ContinuousJess and Reuben

Out of time: item not discussed.

  • Analysis of HTA External Terminology pages – Link to Google Sheet
    • For discussion: addressing the external terminology pages which do not use the new template (62 of 93 / 67%)
  • Call to co-chairs to review code systems was made at the beginning of October and they have until the end of October to make requests for code systems to be retained in THO that have not been previously registered with the HTA. The list is shown here 
    • Responses to date include 
    • From AMS
      • This note is written in response to the TSMG request that workgroups review the list of code systems not managed by the HTA and identify from that list the code systems which should be retained and brought under the HTA's management. The Public Health workgroup has identified the following codes systems from the list that should be retained:


        Industry CDC Census 2010




        Occupation CDC Census 2010




        Codes for Race, authored and maintained by the CDC



        The list is still under review; it is possible that additional code systems will be identified at a later date. We will also review the metadata associated with each code system and update the metadata as needed. 

        The PHWG agenda for 10/21/2021 includes further discussion on this topic with a primary focus on ODH vocabulary. If a member of the TSMG or HTA is able to join our call (details can be found here) it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

    • From FMG
      • HTA-51 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • HTA-52 - Getting issue details... STATUS
      • HTA-53 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Updated CS Identifier process guidance

Continued from previousCarol

Out of time: item not discussed.

Fourth in series was Friday October 15th @3 pm. Next meeting is being scheduled. We are almost through the core principles.

The draft is located here: Validating and Requesting Identifiers for External Code Systems and Identifier Systems

HTA members and observers are asked to review the drafted text, directly edit where changes are needed and use the comment functionality to ask additional questions. We will review again (and hopefully approve on the next HTA call, which will be at the WGM).

TopicContinued from previousReuben

Out of time: item not discussed.

  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.42 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.2 is stated in
    • THO/UTG's ICD-9-CM Code System Metadata Record as the OID for ICD-9-CM
    • the HL7 OID Registry as a retired OID for ICD-9CM with the following note: Note that this has been retired in favor of an explicit split between the diagnosis codes and the procedures codes as per the Vocablary TC decision on Wednesday Q4, January 21, 2004.  Replaced by 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 and 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 as voted by committee.  -T. Klein
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.103 is stated in
  • The OID 2.16.840.1.113883.6.104 is stated in
    • the HL7 OID Registry as the OID for ICD-9CM (procedure codes)
  • Requirement:
    • What are the correct OIDs for
      • ICD-9; and
      • ICD-9-CM 

Any Other Business


UTG/THO Update

Continuous Jess and Reuben

  • 20 October 2021:
    • JB: Once TSMG approves the release, time needs to be scheduled with Grahame for Ted and Grahame to work on the release. Hopefully by the end of October 2021.

AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/ACarol

Call adjourned at __4PM___ EST

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