Meeting Information

Attendee Pass: HTAMeet

Chair:  Julie James

Scribe: Julie


Attendee type:

H - HTA Member

O - observer

L - liaison


P - present

A - Apologies



HPJulie JamesBlue Wave Informatics LLP

Roel Barelds

Precipius b.v.

HPSusan MatneyIntermountain Health
Sylvia ThunHL7 Germany
HPCarol MacumberClinical Architecture
HPReuben DanielsSaludax
HPDavera GabrielJohns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research

Wayne Kubick


Suzy RoySNOMED International
OPAndrea MacLeanCanada Health Infoway
LPJessica BotaUTG/Apelon
Ted KleinKlein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair
Swapna AbhyankarRegenstrief Institute
Rob HausamVocabulary WG CoChair
LPRob McClureUS Realm Liaison
Carmela CoudercVocab WG CoChair
OPJoanie HarperCanada Health Infoway

Minutes of Previous Meeting (2021-03-17) 

Motion to accept DG and RB seconded    .

Agenda Topics

Agenda Outline

Agenda Item


Meeting Minutes from Discussion



Minutes Approval


Quorum was met

Motion to approve Minutes:

DG moves, RB seconds: Motion 5-0-0

TopicNew PSSContinuous

PSS-1712 - Getting issue details... STATUS

Standard HTA text has been added


External SDO and Code System Issues HTA Content Pages Review


Updates from all please.....

NCI-T URI: The resolution of the URI issue needs to be posted to Zulip on the Implementers and Terminology threads

Separate post for the "sunsetting" of the NCI-Metathesaurus

Disappearing Code Systems

As the External Terminologies list has been "modularised", some of the terminologies that did not have a metadata page have "disappeared" (for example ICD-10-GM).  We can add these back "at the bottom"....or we could create blank pages for these - but the value of an empty page is extremely limited.

The correct process to add a code system (or indeed to add back) requires a "new ticket" to properly add the metadata for the code systems.  BUT some of the code systems that we have "lost" are things like ICPC that are well known, but for which we (HTA) have not been able to get a response from the code system owner.

The code systems that disappeared are 
ICD-10-GM (ST to sort),

ICD Function - we think this is an errata (maybe should have been "ICD Foundation")

ICPC (RB to sort)




MONDO (DG trying to sort)

Gaps - RxNorm - although there is an RxNorm on FHIR page but we should have a page so that we can be ready to move over to THO

Future topic with Vocab - how much of the "FHIR content" to move over to THO (e.g. filtering etc.)

Also, some new external code system requests from Mitre  HTA-37 - Getting issue details... STATUS HTA-27 - Getting issue details... STATUS HTA-28 - Getting issue details... STATUS  (Carole has taken 28)

TopicHTA External Terminology Data ElementsOngoingReuben
TopicHL7 Terminology Product FamilyOngoingCarol

Terminology Task List
To discuss the previous meeting

Could the Product Family be "managing THO" at least initially because THO is where we are moving terminology "production" here.  Then, over time, review how Vocab and/or HTA transition evolutionarily.  Reuben to write something up for this

TopicUTG/THO UpdateContinuousJess

UP180 Ticket - HC Code Systems and Naming Systems

The HTA template needs some more data in; once that is done HTA are OK with this going through UTG to its end.

TopicSOLORFrom last meeting
Do we progress this? This has to go to a conversation with Vocab
TopicCode System developmentNew(ish)Carol

Code system development 

Where have we got to with this? 

TopicAny Other BusinessContinuousJulie

AdjournmentMeeting adjournedN/AJulie

Call adjourned at 21.07 UTC

Action Items

  • 11-Nov: Reuben Daniels  to send recommendations on HTA confluence page data elements and their mapping to FHIR for .
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