Attendee Pass: HTAMeet
Chair: Julie James
Scribe: Reuben Danielsand Caroline Macumber
H - HTA Member
O - observer
L - liaison
P - present
A - Apologies
|H||P||Julie James||Blue Wave Informatics LLP|
|H||P||Susan Matney||Intermountain Health|
|H||at 8pm||Sylvia Thun||HL7 Germany|
|H||P||Carol Macumber||Clinical Architecture|
|H||Davera Gabriel||Johns Hopkins University Institute for Clinical and Translational Research|
|L||Suzy Roy||SNOMED International|
|O||Andrea MacLean||Canada Health Infoway|
|O||Bapi Behera||Prime Therapeutics|
|O||P||Ted Klein||Klein Consulting / HL7 UTG / Vocabulary WG CoChair|
|O||Swapna Abhyankar||Regenstrief Institute|
|O||Rob Hausam||Vocabulary WG CoChair|
|L||P||Rob McClure||US Realm Liaison|
|O||Carmela Couderc||Vocab WG CoChair|
|O||Mary Kay Daniel||Cognoscente|
Minutes of Previous Meeting (2020-10-14)
Motion to accept proposed and accepted.
Meeting Minutes from Discussion
Quorum is met
Motion to approve Minutes proposed
SM moves, RB seconds: Motion 3-0-0
Report on PSS/NIB process conversation with Melva
External SDO Issues or additional topics
SNOMED CT versions
1) Report on TSC regarding wording for third party copyright
"TSC has reviewed the request to include text for 3rd party content and wordsmith the provided text, resulting in the following. Upon agreement by HTA, the final text will then need to be sent to HQ for review by HL7 legal for final approval. Text the TSC suggested is:
Motion to accept this text: RD/SM - 3:0:0
Julie James to communicate this to Karen van at HQ
2) SNOMED CT editions – to seek agreement that each SNOMED edition requires its own code system information page (and, in future, its own FHIR CodeSystem resource in HL7 Terminology)
Countries with national extensions/NRCs may need to be able to directly reference their own editions of SNOMED CT. Similar issues may exist with ICD-X and ATC in European countries that have their own "extensions" to these two code systems. "If the Edition matters, you must include the version."
Reuben proposes: a) that we update our SCT page to be explicitly the "international edition" b) additional pages be created for national editions as required c) UTG / Terminology@HL7.org be updated in line with a) and b)
Motion to accept this RD/CM - 3:0:0
Practical technicalities will be discussed offline (Ted/Reuben) - can multiple Naming System resources have the same URI (distinguished only by what is present in the version identifier) and still work in the IG Publisher?
Vocab will work on the implementation of this.
|Topic||HL7 Terminology Single Repository and Supporting Process||Completed||Reuben|
Report on TSC meeting for the agreed policy
TSC has endorsed unanimously that Terminology.HL7.org will be the single repository for external code system information for HL7. Clearly, this endorsement is excellent, but it now behoves us to make this work, including how to manage this within the community. Further discussion with TSC may be needed for this.
|Topic||Rapid Processing for Code Systems ("stubs")||New||Reuben||Representing HTA-managed external code system information data elements for a code system in HL7 Terminology FHIR CodeSystem resources (the so-called 'stubs')|
|Topic||EDBA Content||Completed||Julie - Jim McClay from ECWG|
From an email exchange, it appears this is all going forward OK and does not require HTA input at this time.
|Topic||HTA Content Pages Review||Continuous||Reuben|
New for this TC:
Raw data is available here
For any blanks, please insert an "N/A"
External Code Systems
Have URLs from HCA Healthcare for CCC code systems
Also working with ICN / ICNP.....particularly for those countries which will not be using the SNOMED cross walk;
ENP and ICF - outstanding; Julie to do LCP
FM WG: CPT - copyright statement is approved, are reviewing all the other info....also shared with US Core
ICD-9CM and ICD-10CM - both done, reusing legacy identifiers as nothing back from NCHS
NCPDP - 7 code systems all approved, although have temp identifiers...will become permanent soon
NUBC - 6 code systems all done and ready for production
NDC - ready for approval; Approval motion: RD/SM 3:0:0
CMS RARC codes - managed/stewarded (owned) by CMS, published by X12
X12 - 3 done (published by X12 but not necessarily "owned" by them)
DRGs - last one on Mary Kay's list
Major vote of thanks to Carol for all this amazing effort; everyone to buy Carol a drink at the next real meeting
All these are "US Realm" - what is the responsibilities of the US Realm Steering Committee in this?
Having done all this, it may be that we should separate out "owner", "maintainer/steward" and "publisher"
|Topic||Any Other Business||Continuous||Julie|
Call adjourned at 20.05 UTC
- Reuben Daniels create the ISCO-08 Page
- Reuben Daniels to check with Joshua Procious to determine if we can transfer tickets from FHIR or UTG project to the HL7 JIRA project
- 8-Jul-2020:Davera Gabriel will run with NCI Thesaurus vs NCI Meta-thesaurus matter.
- 19-Aug-2020: Grahame's Page:Reuben Daniels volunteered to work with Grahame, Ted, and Josh to come up with an approach to address the need for machine processing of HTA information about external code systems.
- 19-Aug-2020: Copyright for value sets:Reuben Daniels to raise a ticket for the creation of a field to capture external code system copyright's in the FHIR ValueSet resource in compose.include