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Meeting Details
Date: September 21, 2023
Time: 1 - 2PM ET
Coordinates:
- Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acrJHLNHol
Meeting ID: 510 046 7805
Meeting Status
Chair: Hans Buitendijk
Scribe: Riki Merrick
- Quorum (Co-Chair + 4) Met
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WGM Minutes posted | Sep 29, 2023 |
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2024 Jan Connectathon and Ballot | |
FHIR IG proposals to FMG | Oct 22, 2023 |
NIB deadline | Nov 11, 2023 |
FHIR Connectathon Track Proposal due | Nov 17, 2023 |
FHIR Core substantive Content freeze | Dec 5, 2023 |
Prior ballot recon due | Dec 3, 2023 |
Ballot FHIR IG approval | |
Final ballot content deadline | Dec 17, 2023 |
WGM Agenda posted | |
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Attendees
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Ralf Herzog | Roche |
Rob Hausam | Hausam Consulting |
Hans Buitendijk | Oracle |
JD Nolen | Mercy Children's Hospital |
Riki Merrick | Vernetzt, LLC / APHL |
Yanick Gaudet | Global Star |
Sarah Gaunt | Lantana |
Andrea Pitkus | UW |
Marti Velezis | Sonrisa / FDA |
Jackie Hemenway | |
Dan Rutz | Epic |
Jose Costa Teixeira | |
Olga Volk | |
Bob Dieterle | Enable Care |
Kathy Walsh | Labcorp |
Lorraine Constable | Constable Consulting |
Elliot Silver | |
David Barwin | |
Donna Pertel | |
Michelle Ashafa | |
John Moehrke | |
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Administrivia
Approve Minutes
- Motion to accept as updated/published. JD Nolen, David Barwin
- Against: 0; Abstain: 0; In Favor: 12
- Motion to accept as updated/published. JD Nolen, David Barwin
- 2023-09-11-15 WGM
- all please review and add where indicated or edit as needed
- To be posted by 9/29
OO Project Proposal Triage
None for today
Today's Topics
- USCDI Comments
- were submitted
- ISA Comments
- CPT-PLA were submitted
- if any others would need to get on the agenda ASAP
- FHIR R6
- Will have 2-3 for comment ballots before normative starts
- Use priority list (https://confluence.hl7.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=161078076#id-2023050812WGM-R6Planning) to determine focus and then the dashboards to tackle.
- See if we can focus on getting block votes together on open jiras – in special calls prep, then vote on main
- Implementer survey on where we want feedback on for normative resources
- Need to pull this together ASAP
- Regardless if a resource is marked as normative, implementers expect ALL R6 content be normative
- Basically the privilege of not following the normative rules will go away with R6
- So we will need to time box and focus on major topics and patterns.
- WGM Recap
- Meeting Highlights
- Families JIRA – OO Families/Household/Workplace/Event JIRAs page has been updated with Patient Care resources;
- Scope changed to include workplace and events
- For some actor roles group makes sense, not for others
- FHIR-I is setting up a taskforce to make this consistent
- OO indicated that our analysis of OO owned resources be considered by tis group
- This group should include reps from all WGs that have affected resources
- TSC may review this once the work is completed
- need to pull from notes prior to sharing this with the Task Force that will be pulled together to discuss this across FHIR Resources
- See Information Modeling from CG - re: MolecularState Resource (along with Sequence)
- Backport Extension - January 2024 ballot
- Gender Harmony Cross Paradigm IG publication request went to TSC, some planning around future maintenance
- Reviewing the minutes by quarter
- 9.1 comments related to use of OBX will be discussed in V2 Management – Fridays 11 AM – will coordinate with submitter and V2 Management co-chair on the date for this meeting
- GC introduced new resource alongside sequence called molecularState
- Did some FHIR ticket prep work – these will be in a block vote for next OO main call – Marti will review these to find candidates
- Jan WGM is 4 days - there is discussion on being on UTG+5
- Families JIRA – OO Families/Household/Workplace/Event JIRAs page has been updated with Patient Care resources;
- Meeting Highlights
- Panel Discussion Update
- Goal is to have just one option
- Currently there are 2 options:
- Option A = observation.code has panel code and all members are in the observation.hasMember
- Option B = Panel code in DiagnosticReport.code
- Both options support reflex testing
- In option B you are losing the option to use composition for overall report structure = represented form and overall report status
- Should DiagnosticReport be a specialization of composition to resolve this, so that you could use the composition
- You would need to have separate compositions for each DiagnosticReport and that should be different from the
- Currently there are 2 options:
- Will continue on this topic tomorrow on the lab call
- Jose will revive the zulip thread of specialization on observation = parameterized resources
- Goal is to have just one option
- COW call:
- can we find a new call time, so Jose can join?
- BPM+ could join at current COW call time
- Characteristics Project - Next week
Adjourned 2:03 PM ET
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Any updates?
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UP-44 -no value set content defined for v2 table 963 value set
- Leaving UP-44 open for now – so that the new tickets and this one can be linked
V2-Jira Review (time permitting) | Discussed: |
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Block Vote Pulled JIRA
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Hans pulled FHIR-32154, FHIR-25552 | From May 25, 2023 |
JIRA Triage
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JIRAS to be marked Published | Note - these are in the published R5 on http://hl7.org/fhir/ |
Modules - Updates on progress | Discussed: |
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The following are draft pages to organize and author content for each of our health care product resources:
- BiologicallyDerivedProduct
- Devices
- some work by devices WG
- do we need to differentiate lab devices (pre/post- analytical devices from analytical devices in the lab)?
- Need to decide to what level of detail this page should go, or if we need this then how to document some of this content = may not belong here, but rather on the device related resource pages
- Nutrition Product
- VisionPrescription
OO Resource Coverage
- Need to discuss developmental roadmap for each of the OO resources for R6
- Added R6 planning to WGM agenda
- Need to discuss what needs to be done prior to WGM to prep for discussions
- Add Resource reorg comments to module pages
Notes
- Marti revised related resource for each topic area to where the resources align to current modules
- Definitional resources were in workflow (pattern is still there) but those are now in administrative – Marti and Jose to take off-line
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HCP |
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OO on FHIR |
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Cancer Pathology Reporting |
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IHE SDC/eCC on FHIR |
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Nutrition |
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LIVD |
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(FHIR in the Lab) Order Workflow project is merged with: FHIR Orders Exchange (DME/AcuteOrders) (Administrative) | Topics:
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Order Service Catalog |
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LAB (LRI/LOI/eDOS) |
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