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Meeting Details


Time: 10AM ET

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JD Nolen, Robert Dieterle, Brian Handspicker, Daniel Golson, Rob Hausam, Scott Fradkin, Susan Downer, Marti Velezis, Kathy Walsh, Andrea Pitkus

Chair: Ralf Herzog


  • Quorum Met 


  • Workflow Topics
  • JIRA Tickets 
    • FHIR-41591 - Getting issue details... STATUS How to handle specimen rejections with respect to the order status 
  • AOB?

Meeting Resources

PSS: PSS-2101

IG Proposal: Clinical Order Workflow (COW)

JIRA Tickets: OO Workflow JIRAs

Background Materials



  • Discuss if specimen rejections should be discussed in this group.
    • Interplay with ServiceRequest and Task statuses and might be also Observation. 
    • Not all of the elements currently in are necessarily Specimen Reject Reasons but "I cannot perform this Order/Test, while I am able to perform that Order/Test" Reasons (i.e. "Quantity not sufficient" might be valid for one Order/Test but not for another Order/Test). 

Review Meeting minutes from last week 2023-08-18 OO FHIR COW

From Chat

Andrea Pitkus, PhD, MLS(ASCP)CM, FAMIA. UW-Madison to Everyone (Aug 25, 2023, 10:19 AM)
Sorry I'm late,  On Specimen call, we discussed clotted specimens etc would not have an observation, would be CLIA specimen rejection reason.
Not sure if you discussed
Robert Dieterle (EnableCare) to Everyone (Aug 25, 2023, 10:29 AM)
sorry, I need to drop
Andrea Pitkus, PhD, MLS(ASCP)CM, FAMIA. UW-Madison to Everyone (Aug 25, 2023, 10:29 AM)
I think it's plausible.  I've seen serum/plasma that is partially clotted/gooey after centrifugation.  It depends on how far down the pipetter goes down into the tube, the level of serum etc
You may run out of specimen for pediatric, dehydrated patients too

looks like it was in dstu1, but removed.

I'd be interested in why it was removed