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Meeting Details
Date: August 11, 2023
Time: 1PM ET
Coordinates: Join Zoom meeting: https://zoom.us/j/5100467805 | Meeting ID: 510 046 7805 | +1 929-436-2866-US (New York)
Attendees:
Hans Buitendijk, JD Nolen, Kathy Walsh, Nancy Spector (AMA), Ana Szarfman, Andrea Pitkus, Christina Gallegos, Rob Hausam, Sara Armson, Craig Newman, Scott Fradkin, Marti Velezis
Chair: Hans Buitendijk
Scribe: Hans Buitendijk/Marti Velezis
- Quorum (Co-Chair + 4) Met
AGENDA
- Standing Topics
- Special Topics
- COW/FOE updates
- DiagnosticReport.status
- Other JIRAs form Triage Inventory below
- Other agenda items?
Meeting Resources
JIRA Dashboards:
- OO-Lab - to indicate when the JIRA Ticket should be reviewed by the OO Lab SMEs, especially when the issue is not assigned to the Resource owner.
Meeting Minutes | Previous Meeting Notes |
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Standing Topics |
Meeting Notes
- CPT-PLA
- Hans, Nancy, and Kathy will draft a proposal on where to relocate the reference in ISA in a better context, and then review in this group before submitting with PAC input on process.
- The recommendation to ONC will be drafted here: OO Lab and CPT PLA - Orders & Observations - Confluence (hl7.org) in the ONC Recommendation section.
- 8/4 - Reminder: We are not planning re-discuss the topic, rather to establish a crisp recommendation on where to represent CPT-PLA instead of its current location with a focused rationale.
- 8/11: Revised the OO Lab and CPT PLA confluence page with changes to include:
- Updated Option 1
- need to follow-up as noted - re: IVD Vendors or just labs
- Updated Option 2
- Representing Laboratory Test Procedure Performed
- Updated Option 1
- Revisit the recommendation on August 25, 2023
- ISA Comments - Due October 6, 2023
- Consider any other Lab specific updates that would be good to include in ISA (vocabulary, messages, FHIR, etc.)
- Revisit the recommendation on August 25, 2023
- COW/FOE Updates
- Reviewed Potassium workflow
- Need to determine how Specimen information is updated in various scenarios
- Bob will be there next week
-------------Meeting Adjourned at 2:04PM EDT---------------
--------Backlog of Topics---------
- 8/18 - ObservationDefinition.qualifiedInterval.condition
- Zulip chat: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179256-Orders-and-Observation-WG/topic/ObservationDefinition.2EqualifiedInterval.2Econdition
- Rahul Agarwal will attend to discuss.
- DiagnosticReport.status
- Zulip chat: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179256-Orders-and-Observation-WG/topic/DiagnosticReport.20statuses.20and.20CLIA.20requirements.3F
Status in FHIR: http://hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/codesystem-diagnostic-report-status.html
- v2-FHIR Mapping Spreadsheet: HL7 Concept Map: ResultStatus[Non-Queries] - Google Sheets
- 8/4 - Summarized the discussion from OO Main call and ran out of time.
- See links in Chat below
- Still need a bit of clarification
- Reviewed CAP Checklist from 2023
- Corrected/correction - A change in a previously issued clinical pathology test report intended to correct an
inaccuracy, including changes in test results, patient identification, reference intervals, interpretation, or other
content.
- Corrected/correction - A change in a previously issued clinical pathology test report intended to correct an
- Micro
- Craig's v2 micro question: https://confluence.hl7.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=161080303#id-20230518Main-Subject:"v2discretemicroquestion"-Listservemessage(fromCraig)
- The OBX-30 Observation Sub-Type Enhancements - Orders & Observations - Confluence (hl7.org) was created, and as it was created identified that various values were actually deleted, and examples were available for most but not all sub-types.
- We reviewed the current wording and examples and updated the page with suggested adjustments (in red for text not in the published version and strikethrough where text is suggested to be removed)
- Craig updated the example (Micro Example) using only the active/new values.
- Open questions for next week:
- Any other updates to the definitions/descriptions to clarify?
- Any examples that would primarily be using MOD?
- Any examples that could use either use MID or MOD? We discussed PCR, but that raised questions whether is actually confusing and would require further explanation as for some it would never be used with MID.
- Andrea had suggested that a more complex example she described would be helpful, but a volunteer to create that has not yet been identified.
- No update
- Panel/Micro and discoverable Observations in FIHR
- Hans/Fran to create an initial proposal, focusing on the micro scenario, on how to approach this in FHIR / FHIR US Core.
- No update
- Hans/Fran to create an initial proposal, focusing on the micro scenario, on how to approach this in FHIR / FHIR US Core.
- Other JIRAs from Triage Inventory - Not discussed
JIRA Triage Inventory |
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V2 Lab JIRAs (link)
The following JIRA Tickets need to be reviewed by the Lab members as carry over from May 2023 WGM:
- V2-25376 - As soon as Dan has proposal.
FHIR Lab JIRA (link)
The following JIRA Tickets need to be reviewed by the Lab members as carry over from May 2023 WGM:
- FHIR-32406
- FHIR-32405
- FHIR-33041
- FHIR-34205
- FHIR- 32154 - Pending outcome of DiagnosticReport/Observation/Panel discussions
Chat History
Ana.Szarfman@fda.hhs.gov to Everyone (Aug 11, 2023, 1:25 PM)
How can we assure and how can we test that an order message reaches all necessary recipients without being corrupted or ignored?
Andrea Pitkus, PhD, MLS(ASCP)CE, FAMIA. UW-Madison to Everyone (Aug 11, 2023, 1:30 PM)
https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/cpt-pla-codes-long.pdf
Abbott AlinityTM m STI Assay, Abbott Molecular, Inc
Ana.Szarfman@fda.hhs.gov to Everyone (Aug 11, 2023, 1:51 PM)
How can we make these transmissions, machine readable?