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Meeting Details
Date: August 3, 2023
Time: 1 - 2PM ET
Coordinates:
- Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acrJHLNHol
Meeting ID: 510 046 7805
Meeting Status
Chair: JD Nolen
Scribe: Riki Merrick
- Quorum (Co-Chair + 4) Met
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Sep 2023 Connectathon / Ballot / WGM | |
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WGM Agenda posted | Aug 11, 2023 |
WGM Minutes posted | Sep 29, 2023 |
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TSC Representative Election | July 31, 2023 |
2024 Jan Connectathon and Ballot | |
TSC Approved PSS deadline | Aug 11, 2023 |
FHIR IG proposals to FMG | Oct 22, 2023 |
NIB deadline | Nov 11, 2023 |
FHIR Connectathon Track Proposal due | Nov 17, 2023 |
FHIR Core substantive Content freeze | Dec 5, 2023 |
Prior ballot recon due | Dec 3, 2023 |
Ballot FHIR IG approval | |
Final ballot content deadline | Dec 17, 2023 |
WGM Agenda posted | |
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Attendees
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Ralf Herzog | Roche |
Rob Hausam | Hausam Consulting |
JD Nolen | Mercy Children's Hospital |
Hans Buitendijk | Oracle |
Riki Merrick | Vernetzt, LLC / APHL |
Yanick Gaudet | Star Global |
Joellen | Carter |
Andrea Pitkus | UW |
Marti Velezis | Sonrisa / FDA |
Craig Newman | Altarum |
Dan Rutz | Epic |
Jose Costa Teixeira | |
Christopher Harrison | Quest Diagnostics |
Bob Dieterle | Enable Care |
Kathy Walsh | Labcorp |
Lorraine Constable | Constable Consulting |
Elliot Silver | ResMed |
Donna Pertel | |
Susan Downer | JMC / APHL |
Patrick Loyd | |
Matt Elrod | |
Dave Hill | Mitre |
Maria Moen |
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Administrivia
Approve Minutes
2023-07-20 Main - Motion to approve Kathy Walsh, Riki Merrick, no further discussion, against: 0, abstain: 3, in favor:5
- 2023-07-27 Main - Motion to approve Kathy, Riki, no further discussion, against: 0, abstain: 2, in favor:6
OO Project Proposal Triage
Do we need to review/comment on?
Today's topics:
OO WGM 202309 - Agenda - Orders & Observations - Confluence (hl7.org)
- PH meeting on Tues Q2 – Craig will tell us if that does NOT work – OO can host
- Co-Chairs to add their availability
- Wed Q4 for vocab will talk Gender Harmony, so send reps (Lorraine)
- Added these topics as follows:
Tue Q2 – add topics to PH joint
CIMI as a WG discussion – if they dissolve, then we need to find places in the domain WGs for their work
LabOrder model – apply resolutions to the material – Fri Q2
Thu Q4 with CIMI – ballot recon for lab model IG
Ralf may not be able to attend ☹
- Need to work with FHIR-I or Vocab on the following:
- FHIR-40437 - Link missing - Note this is the expansion list
September Connectathon Participation
- 2023 - 09 Orders Exchange Track only - nothing new here
FHIR JIRAs (link to below)
- Updated status
- Pulled Block Vote JIRAs from May/June 2023
Update on FHIR Tracker related to Family/Household attributes
- here to not forget / be able to provide updates, was not further discussed today
- Created matrix - see: 2023-07-18 OO on FHIR and 2023-07-25 OO on FHIR
- discussion is generating additional Jira tickets
- Had a lot of discussion on 2023-07-25 OO on FHIR
- A family can be a recipient of care, but also a provider of care
- Do we want to repurpose Group for receiving care and CareTeam for providing care, GG doesn’t like it, per zulip thread
- If they are both providers and receivers of care, then all the attributes would be duplicated
- In a family parents can give care, but infants would not providing care – but can receive care
- CareTeam covers Group, so could cover that aspect
- FHIR-I owns Group and PC owns CareTeam – but this on a WGM agenda for the joint with PC Wed Q1
- Left note on zulip to join the OO call on August 8 and offered the WGM Wed Q1 (Next week)
- Send email notes about this plan to Co-Chairs of affected WGs: PC, FHIR-I, Learning Health Systems
Diagnostic Report and CLIA Zulip
- Zulip chat: https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/229447-V2/topic/privacy.20.2F.20commercial.20lab.20workflowshttps://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179256-Orders-and-Observation-WG/topic/DiagnosticReport.20statuses.20and.20CLIA.20requirements.3F
- Andrea provided quite a bit of detail, so we can close this topic, BUT
- Need to still review the DiagonistReport status codes:
- Reviewed and made edits to the following: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PZzztfsx_yRfvrl3i9on8Tc-yXZCzbK1wnVgts-SxSQ/edit#gid=0
- Status in FHIR: http://hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/codesystem-diagnostic-report-status.html
Zulip - ObservationDefinition.qualifiedInterval.condition
- https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179256-Orders-and-Observation-WG/topic/ObservationDefinition.2EqualifiedInterval.2Econdition
qualifiedInterval – no longer exist – was changed in R5 to observationDefinition.qualifiedValue
it seems that context provides codes situations, condition is string to capture anything else
Created FHIR-41617:
add more examples
for reference range based on sex and age
for range category = absolute range of a device
need to fix qualifiedValue.gender – that should be using sex parameter for clinical use: qualifiedValue.SPCU
Added a comment explaining the above and asking what they are trying to achieve
ADJOURNED 1:58 PM ET
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UP-44 -no value set content defined for v2 table 963 value set
- Leaving UP-44 open for now – so that the new tickets and this one can be linked
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Elliot Silver pulled FHIR-33042 Hans pulled FHIR-32154, FHIR-25552 | From May 25, 2023 |
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The following are draft pages to organize and author content for each of our health care product resources:
OO Resource Coverage
- Need to discuss developmental roadmap for each of the OO resources for R6
- Added R6 planning to WGM agenda
- Need to discuss what needs to be done prior to WGM to prep for discussions
- Add Resource reorg comments to module pages
Notes
- Marti revised related resource for each topic area to where the resources align to current modules
- Definitional resources were in workflow (pattern is still there) but those are now in administrative – Marti and Jose to take off-line
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