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Administrivia

Approve Minutes

• • 2023-04-20 Main - Motion to approve minutes from last week – JD Nolen, Kathy Walsh, no further discussion, against:0, abstain: 0, in favor: 9

Key Topics for Today

• WGM Agenda review - Meeting Rooms
• FHIR JIRA Tickets (below)

OO Project Proposal Triage

• No new proposals or PSS to review.  Checked on 4/27/2023.

Other (Project Approvals, NIBs, etc.) 

• Expiration of standards:
  • HL7 Version 3 Standard: Clinical Statement Pattern, Release 1 - August 2024 - Re-affirmation or Withdrawal for May 2024 Ballot
• Catalog Ballot Reconciliation (2020-Sept)
  • Where are we with validating that the meeting minutes can be applied to jiras and update those jiras – there is one row missing a disposition
    • We will handle this on the catalog call tomorrow along with any other outstanding jiras
• ONC New Proposed Rule HTI-1 on Information blocking and increase USCDI to version 3
  • Laboratory RFI (LOI, LRI, FHIR COW/FOE, and could consider commenting on Catalog, LIVD efforts) - See pages 331 - 334

• OO WGM 202305 - Agenda
  
  • Please indicate if you are attending = OO WGM 202305 - Attendance Log
  • Release of Rooms for Tues Q1 - Riki to let Mary Ann know
  • Wed Q4 will do Jira work with whoever is there - Hans chairing
  • BR&R meeting is now Tue Q4
  • Added some device jiras for Thu Q2
    • DEV understands that the FHIR-I input will be focused
      • discussion around what should be normative in R6 – should the more rigorous review, especially for structural changes (FMM levels changed by FMG vs the WG)
      • QA and jira
  • GS1 will participate on Fri Q1 – GTIN work
• WGM+ Schedule (NEW LINK)
  • Monday Q1 - SHALL not schedule WGM 
  • Tuesday Q1 - SHOULD not schedule WGM (ONC/USCDI, Argonaut, Gravity)
  • Rob Hausam (not available TH  Q1/Q2)
  • WGM+ meeting has virtual option for all days
  • Combined meeting with Health BPM Wed + Thu, may run into Friday

• Check back in June for progress

UP-44 -no value set content defined for v2 table 963 value set 

• We had discussed and taken a vote on this back on 2022-06-10, but I'm not sure at this point if that is still what we actually want to do.  If we discuss it again together hopefully we can decide if that is what we want or we can figure out a good alternative plan.

Discussion this week:

• The following value set should be used: http://build.fhir.org/valueset-device-safety.html - This binding was done in FHIR
• Code system is pointing to NCBI Thesaurus
• Used in DEV-14
• Add to the HCP Call
  • Need to add example from EUDAMED to add to the list of example values
  • Create a JIRA to get the terms added into the http://build.fhir.org/valueset-device-safety.html
• Craig Newman: https://terminology.hl7.org/CodeSystem-v2-tables.html already references the FHIR value set for device safety
  • Need to determine if this is matching in Table 2C - make sure Michael Faughan is aware of this issue – he is working on syncing Chapter 2C content
  • and determine if it gets updated in the next release
  • For V2 we will use what is in the FHIR value set
  • Will need to figure out how to properly document the fact that the value set is drawn from 2 code systems 
• Next THO deadline is June 4, 2023
• Create a JIRA for v2
• Leaving UP-44 open for now – so that the new tickets and this one can be linked

Add "GTIN", "serialized GTIN" and other UDI Types to UniveralIDType (http://terminology.hl7.org/CodeSystem/v2-0301) to be able to specify that a Universal ID is of "GTIN" Universal ID Type.

This would help to apply to HD Data, EI Data, EIP Data, etc. the Universal ID Type "GTIN", examples are:

HD based Data (HD-2 (Universal ID) is of "GTIN" Universal ID Type:

• MSH-3 (Sending Application), 
• MSH-5 (Receiving Application), 

EI based Data (EI-3 (Universal ID) is of "GTIN" Universal ID Type:

• SAC-3 (Container Identifier), 
• SAC-4 (Primary (Parent) Container Identifier)
• PRT-10 (Device ID)
• PRT-16 (UDI Device Identifier)

EIP based Data (EIP-1-3 and EIP-2-3 (Universal ID) is of "GTIN" Universal ID Type:

• SPM-2 (Specimen ID), 
• SPM-3 (Specimen Parent IDs), etc.
  • Both of these are related to the work GS1 is currently discussing to maybe create a "serialized" GTIN for all containers which would be a worldwide unique code (would be default barcode on tubes, slides, tags etc.) 

CX datatype uses HL70203 for example in PID-3 (not applicable), but maybe in OBX-5.

V2-25519 - Getting issue details... STATUS  

• Added to WGM Friday Q1 (see ticket) 
• Application Identifiers: https://www.gs1.org/standards/barcodes/application-identifiers
• there are other agencies that assign UDIs that may need to be considered as well

Discussion today:

• New jira is to track which agencies need to be considered
• Also use in EI – for the serial number of the device ID
• GS1 has other application identifiers – https://www.gs1.org/standards/barcodes/application-identifiers GTIN is only one of them, so may have to review these and then we could use the GD1 data matrix format for many different identifiers
  • 10, 11 17 and 21 already have other parts in the UDI carrier

• V2 Dashboard 

Discussion Topics: 

JIRA 

Block Vote of old Jira trackers set for next main call - see: https://confluence.hl7.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=161072874#id-20230504Main-OOonFHIRBlockVote(senton4/26/2023)

• JIRA Backlog Cleanup -

• • Plan of attack to cleanup stale JIRAs.
  • Need to triage the older tickets to see if they are still relevant/valid (any volunteers???)
    • We may just want to create block votes for any tickets that are no longer relevant/valid
  • We have been getting 6-12 tickets per meeting if we have prepared the tickets in advance
  • We will continue to work through the backlog

The following are draft pages to organize and author content for each of our health care product resources: 

• BiologicallyDerivedProduct
• Devices
• Nutrition Product
• VisionPrescription

OO Resource Coverage

• Need to discuss developmental roadmap for each of the OO resources for R6
• Added R6 planning to WGM agenda
• Need to discuss what needs to be done prior to WGM to prep for discussions
• Add Resource reorg comments to module pages

Notes

• Marti revised related resource for each topic area to where the resources align to current modules
• Definitional resources were in workflow (pattern is still there) but those are now in administrative – Marti and Jose to take off-line

FROM CHAT:

• Andrea Pitkus 1:38 PM
  • Is this for any observation that can be supine, standing, sitting, etc? Or radial venipunctures vs other for blood gases
• Andrea Pitkus 1:49 PM
  • What are the use cases that are in mind for this

ADJOURNED 2:01 PM EDT