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Agenda

  • Revision Cycle 1901
  • Revision Cycle 1905

Attendees

NameAttendance

Melva Peters (Chair)

x

Hans Buitendijk

x
Karen Van Hentenryck
x
Peter Jordan
x

John Roberts

x

William E. Hammond

Regrets

Charles Meyer

x

Supporting Material

Minutes 

GOM Revision Cycle 1901

GOC Issue IssueMinutes 2019-02-19Status
1901003All leadership elections occur once a year. Can co-chair elect participants come to the co-chair meeting at the WGM. Should we move forward with this, we need to (1) ask the TSC to weigh in (2) determine pool of voters for co-chair voting. All on the call agree to move this forward.
  • Comment received
  • Distributed to PIC - PIC call yesterday
    • Misunderstanding - thought Co-Chair term of office was being changed to 1 year - that is not the intent
    • Co-Chair elections have not been changed
    • Look at wording to make sure this is clear
    • Interim co-chair election - should be added to the DMP
      • clarify how long the term will be - has been cleared up with Lloyd's comment
        • PIC thought that someone may be not be able to commit to the length of the cycle
        • Interim serves until next election
        • PIC recommendation that WG have ability to flex the length of the Co-Chair in their DMP
    • Suggested poll to membership about if the co-chair elections should be changed to Annual
    • HL7 having issues in getting Co-Chairs - not sure if this change will impact this
      • Peter - sympathetic with Chuck's position.  Not sure that this change will impact number of people running for Co-Chairs
      • Chuck - could push it out and see what happens
    • Maybe there needs to be an article in the newsletter on the process of how this change will be made
    • There may be situations where there is no staggering - need to address this - Work Groups may have to deal with this
    • Hans - okay with this moving forward
      • don't see any down sides about doing this
    • Agree to move forward to the EC

Approved by EC

TBCMerging WGs and what happens to the projects. Can they be assigned to other WG? There is enough info in the GOM to cover this, but we may wish to add some clarifying information on the forms.

Melva Peters will send response to Kai Heitmann

No further action needed

1901005GOM does not allow TSC to rapidly react to situations requiring technical decisions. Some concerns about this. Must be transparent and clear. Some distinction between the GOM being silent on an issues vs. the TSC taking action that is in conflict with the GOM. In both instances, TSC should communicate changes to GOM. Maintenance section of GOM may need to be changed.

No comments submitted



Approved by EC

1901008Issue from Christol Green. This was not written up as one of our proposals but should be and responded to as other proposals submitted to GOM

Melva Peters will send response to Christol Green

No further action needed

GOM Revision Cycle 1905

GOC Issue IssueMinutes 2019-02-19Status
TBC

Can a component of a ballot may move forward as normative even if not all of the parts move forward as normative?

Essential Requirements: A component of a ballot may move forward as normative even if not all of the parts move forward as normative

FHIRPath - consensus within the WG that parts of the ballot are not mature enough to move forward. Consensus that it can be published with parts that are identified

ARB - re-ballot with notification that parts are normative and some not normative

2 issues:

  • Can a ballot that is balloted as normative be published with parts normative and parts not normative
  • Should there be a way to ask affirmative voters if publishing in this way -

Answer: can't go back within the same ballot and change the scope from what was included in the entire ballot

Concur with ARB that the scope of the ballot was changed.

Vassil: nothing in ER about change in scope.

  • Definition of substantive change - affects the use of the standard

Karen: thought could move forward parts of the specification

Can there be a process to determine that the ballot status (or parts of a specification status) can be changed to a lower ballot status after the ballot closes?

  • What are the criteria for a substantive change?
  • Who would decide on what constitutes a substantive change? TSC? FMG?

Action: This needs to go back to the FHIR Management Group or TSC for how to handle and determine if a new policy is needed. Need to consider the criteria for a substantive change.

Melva Peters Review with TSC

Hans Buitendijk to review with FMG

Vassil Peytchev to provide specifics of which ballots are affected

1901001Co-chair elections concluded prior to the WGM. If we accept item 3 below, this becomes moot.Deferred to the next cycleDeferred
1901002Co-chair emeritus. This already effectively allowed. Does this mean that (1) once you are an active emeritus it is for life? And (2) do emeritus have full co-chair rights/responsibilities.Waiting for information from Staff on the criteria of Co-Chair emeritus. Executive Committee will be discussing 2019-02-19. Suggest that we defer this item to the next cycle.

Approved by EC

Will be deferred to the next cycle

1901004Normative Ballot Proxy - Need to have a call with ANSI.

Definition of proxy in ANSI ER - focused on "written" proxy. Have precedent from ANSI that electronic document is synonymous with written documentation.

Would ANSI accept electronic sign up? Don't have an answer at this point.

Would be a change to the ballot instructions not ER. Add a place where balloter can assign proxy to "x" if can not be contacted when signing up for the ballot. Must be done for every ballot.

Suggest we defer this work item to the next cycle and continue analysis.

Approved by EC

Will be deferred to the next cycle

1901006Process for electing interim co-chair. Those in attendance feel it does require change to GOM. It is mentioned in the co-chair handbook, so maybe provide more clarity there. Refer to PICNo response from PIC

Referred to PIC

TBD

Late Submission:

Ballot Naming: https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/trackeritem/18292/17090/GOM%2020180426%20Final-naming%20changes%2020181105BNTF.doc

Will defer to next cycleDeferred to next cycle
TBDNew item coming from TSC

GOM 2019

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