Chair: Mark Scrimshire

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HL7 May Connectathon - May 17 - 19 

2021-05 Da Vinci Payer Data Exchange Track for CMS Patient Access API

Summary Read out.

  • Lots of participation
  • Consumer apps came, mostly listening.
  • Formulary testing - participant was able to connect, worked through formulary not having networks. 
  • Brief blockchain discussion. 
  • Provide info about drugs not found vs. not on formulary
  • Next steps with vision and dental, DMEs
    • How do represent in a clinical context.  e.g. glasses. Talked about creating an encounter, is it a procedure or supply request? Lenal: Devices and supplies are all part of device request, not service request. 
    • Device request is not part of USCore - yet. 
    • Claim is not for the order, it's about what happened.
    • Open question: How do you connect a device with an encounter or the device request? 

Showed how to get from a patient through coverage all the way to formulary Drug - awesome!

Big thanks to Mark and Lloyd helping Stanley get a test patient on a test server! 

  • Azuba did a Demo of PDex.
  • Plan Net Demo
  • Formulary Demo 


Link to the Read Out Mark shared today: HL7 FHIR Connectathon 27 Report Out.docx.pdf



Implementer Resources

Moved to Supporting section below!



 

TodayImplementer Support Questions (PDex, Formulary, Plan Net)

Call to All Implementers: We learn as a community and iterate on the IGs through real world experience, so your contributions are welcome! Please come with your questions. Options:

1) Send them to us on Zulip: 

2) Ask questions live on the call

3) Edit and add your question to this page (in this box under "Question")


Any questions?  

BB: Can we add Formulary ID into any of the FHIR resources?

Looking at the group level, where can I get the Formulary ID to group by tiers and group formularies?  From BPM, want to tell which formulary the medication is.  They have the tier info for the medication, but how do they say "which formulary does it belong to"  e.g. returning Tylenol.

Drug tier extension has a drug tier ID and Type.


Currently, we group things by coverageplan and coveragetier. can group a set of alternatives.

They are grouping the formulary - managed at a higher level than the coverage plan.  The plan has a formulary.  Inside the formulary, there are drugs. 

The assumption is that for each formulary API there is one formulary. 

DB: typically you'll have a great than 1 ratio with multiple cost structures, 2 formulary's and 20 coverage plan codes.  They are just repeating. no method for showing they share a given formulary. you don't need the list in pdf anymore. 

It's not built to show that two plans share a single formulary. 

Recommendation to add a value into Medication Knowledge that says this drug comes from this formulary.  The downstream use case is for providing alternatives. 

-Need a value that is shared across multiple data classes.  

there is no method to make a search based on this ID, so unless you shape the API query, the ID isn't serving a purpose other than back end - unless you are wanting to make different queries - 


In the scenario where they are looking for Alternatives, don't need member. E.g. Zocore is being requested, has alternatives like drug a and drug b.  The ID isn't used by the consumer nor is it available for search. why push it across the wire?  Should this be a back end system data setup to allow for sharing the return. Then the entry array, if you query the coverageplan, you get back the list of all the drugs on the formulary and each of those drugs could have a list of alternatives. 


Next Step: David Hill Look in the coverage resource and designate where you would include a Formulary ID. Coverage in member specific. Coverage Plan is not tied to a particular patient, it's a list of drugs covered by that plan. 

Note these are difference:

  • Coverage under PDex
  • Coverage Plan in Formulary.

BP: Request to also look at adding to Medication Knowledge in addition to Coverage Plan. 



Question 2: DB - Codeable concept, take the display and concatenate the code value with a description  (CARIN Blue Button EOB IG use the definition element instead of the :long.... 

Go to the Drug Tier Code system, binding

(Note: Definition column not populated is an error - create ticket)





Formulary Ticket updates

PDex Formulary JIRA Tracker Dashboard

Reviewed last time, share update: FHIR-32178 - Add co-pay value for drugs not subject to deductible - Pharmacy Approved the approach per last week's discussion.

New from last week's discussion:   FHIR-32718 - Getting issue details... STATUS


Lloyd added some more tickets (see dashboard recent additions in the top right:17 Remaining Issues for Review 












Next Week

Implementer Support

Review FAQ Proposed Responses  

Cancelled on 5/28/21 due to WGM. See you on 6/4


 Adjournment

Adjourned at 12:55pm EST.






Outline Reference

Supporting Document

Minute Approval
PDex Companion Guides

PDex IG Companion Guide List

PDex IG Companion Guide - Laboratory Reporting Resources

CARIN CPCDS to US Core Mapping

Latest draft CARIN CPCDS Mapping document: CARIN Mapping to FHIR interim 2020 0818 v2.xlsx

DRAFT - PDEX US Core Mapping from CPCDS source: ResourceMappingUSCoreCPCDS-2020-05-29-v26.xlsx

PDex - US Core
inter-relationship

Source PowerPoint: PDEXandUSCoreRelationship.pptx

Da Vinci is seeking answers to open questions and clarifications needed on the implementation and operational needs of the upcoming CMS Patient Directed API Rules.

Find initial questions and corresponding answers shared from our colleagues at CMS here

  • Links to Published IGs
Other Links:

Implementer Resources

Da Vinci Implementer Support Page

Implementers can take advantage of tools: See the Reference links on the Payer Data Exchange (PDex) page to access links for Reference Implementations, sandboxes, test scripts, and more!

Da Vinci PDex for Patient Access API Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)

CMS Final Rule Questions and Answers log

ONC FAST National Healthcare Directory (including end points) solution page that includes links to everything (solution doc, Connectathon, HL7 workgroup, etc.): https://oncprojectracking.healthit.gov/wiki/display/TechLabSC/National+Healthcare+Directory

Action items

  • David Hill-Look in the coverage resource and Medication Knowledge to designate where you would include a Formulary ID. 
  • David Hill Create ticket for updating the definition column on the 7.26.1

Attendees - 31

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CMS
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BCBST
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Deepthi ReddyMettle Solutions
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Allscripts
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Eric SullivanInovalon
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MITRE
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India DuncanOptum
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Availity
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Susan LestinaAHA
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Bob BowmanCAQH
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Thomas KesslerCMS
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Patrick Edwards
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Briana BarnesScope Info Tech
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Kishore MetlaMettle Solutions
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John Donnelly

Intepro Solutions

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Lorraine DooCMS
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Melanie JonesCMS
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Rim Cothren
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Yolanda VillanovaCMS
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Manoj KumarBCBSFL
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MITRE
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Srinivas KonchadaCentene Corporation
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Sheryl TurneyAnthem
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Helina Gebremariam
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Mike NovalesBCBSIL
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Ric LightHumana
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Ann GallagherOptum
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Chris KlesgesMitre
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Adam GronskyHealth Fidelity
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CaseNet
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Anthem
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CMS
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eClinicalWorks
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Healow
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Interfaceware
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Mark RucciSpectramedix
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Anthem
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Cindy MonarchBCBSM
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Michael Kim
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Jim CatanAccenture
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BCBSA
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Jia Chen
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Robert Dieterle
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Jeff Eastman
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Ernestine Cooper
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Jason TeepleCIGNA
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Lloyd McKenzie
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Mary Winter
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Rachel E. Foerster
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Tom GrannanAzuba
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Tony BensonBCBS AL
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Rakesh Mathew

Independence BC
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Henry ArchibongInovalon
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HL7 Consultant
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Abdul Sattar
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Anirudh Choudhary
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Todd BiskeESI
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Darrell Woelk
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Doug Stoss
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Rick LisseveldAegis
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LakshminarayananSaravanan
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Laurie BurckhardtWPS Health Plan
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Kevin LynchInovalon
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Joseph MinieriMITRE
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Durwin Day BCBS IL
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Daniel Lilavois


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Patricia R Harbin


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Pamela West
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Ravi Thakkar Aetna
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UO
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Shalabh Gautam

Aetna
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Swati NandaAetna CVS Health
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Cyrus
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Kevin
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Kamaraj Kaliaperumal, 

Carefirst

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MITRE
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Fred HarmonReady Computing
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Bhanu Vemuri 

Blue Cross NC
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Michael RyanNCQA
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Narasimha Murthy

Accenture

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Google Cloud Healthcare

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Maggie Mellon

HealthSparq
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Courtney Bland

CVS/Aetna
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Dorothy LeeNCQA
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Khoa Nguyen
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Suma AddagaddeBCBSNC
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Caitlyn CampiFL Blue
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Diane Bengtson
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Sean MahoneyMITRE
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Balaji
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Richard Lisseveld
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Shanna HartmanCMS
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Kevin DayEdifecs
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Sai BagewadiCognizant
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Kechia Scott
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Kerri Wing 
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Krithika KumarAccenture
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Don Zacharia
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Evernorth
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Pamela MaklariCognizant
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@David BradsherBenMedica
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@DJ Gallagher
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@Follis 
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@Nidhi
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@Emily Lozada

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Nancy SpectorAMA
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Bruce WilkinsonBenMedica
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Avality
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Chris Johnson

BCBSAL
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MCG
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ONC
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Surescripts
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NCPDP
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Anupam ThakurBCBSFL
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Jonathan HutchinsBCBST
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Anthem
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Sunitha Godavarthi
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Christopher Gracon

Independent Health

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Labcorp
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James DerricksonIntersystems
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Cognizant
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Neetha JosephCognizant
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Scott M. Robertson

Kaiser Permanente
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MITRE
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Rutika
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Express Scripts
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Brody BrodockAllscripts
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Michael BrodyCME Online
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Theressa BaumannBCBS AL
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Mona ChandrapaleClinicalWorks
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Optum
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Aakash DeliwalaeClinicalWorks
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Mayo
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Epic
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Shaheer
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Stanley Nachimson
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Anthony SmithUNC Health
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Howard Cohen
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Minaei BehnazFDA
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BCBSA
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Shilesh Nairgdit
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NewWave
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MaxMD
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BC Idaho
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Edward CastagnaAltarum
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Andrea KentCoverMyMeds
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Carrie Denny
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Kim Pham
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Celine LefebvreAMA
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Edifecs
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Josh LambUPMC
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Keya ShahCasenet
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Gevity
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MITRE
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Mrugen MehtaeClinicalWorks
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Revathi Jayakumuar
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Supriya
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Bapi Bhera
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Matt DyerVyne
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Sree Vijetha VegiC-HIT
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BCBSA
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Rich BlochLumedic
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Cigna
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Paul Knapp
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Ron UrwongseCAQH
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Anand Raghavan

Inovalon

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HealthLX
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David Clowers


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Ezequiel MoralesCigna Evernorth
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Frank McKinney
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Hanna ?
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Brett Rauschke
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Carolyn McKinney
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Clarissa WinchesterBCBS AL
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JC
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HealthShare Exchange (HSX)
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River Wong
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Rob McClureMD Partners
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Ronald WamplerCVS Health Aetna
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Derrick Woolridge
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Beata Ferraiz
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Ed DonaldsonConsultant with Humana
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Julie Burgoon
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Mark NeumuthAetna
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Raj SankuratriAetna
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Anthony Omosule

Accenture

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Dr. Cheryl D. LohmanGermantown, MD | Family Physician
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Barbara Valeno
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Eshaa Dhalleclinicalworks
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Angie Brandon
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Bryan Briegal
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ACP
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Beatrice Thompson CVS Health
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Hema Srinivasa
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Kristin AshbyAetna
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Nag Sanivarapu
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Abhishek Pandey
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Shailesh Prabhu
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Travis HendrixDr. First
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Zakir Guler
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Jason VanderJagtedifecs
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Erika Wagner
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Shamil Nizamov
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Michael Robinson
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Christopher Marchand
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Chris Busch
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Nathaniel Hosenpud
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Christopher RoedockerSKYGEN
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Jeff BrownEvernorth
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Sid
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Nehal Amin
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Amit Cudykier
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C45214
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Noah Lincoff
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Yukta Bellani Evernorth/Cigna
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Brian SchoonoverOptum
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Tone SoutherlandOneRecord
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@Ram Optum