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Chair: Lindsey Hoggle

Scribe: James McClay

Standing CIC and Project Calls

Topic: CIC Second Thursday Call

Time: March 11, 2021 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

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Regular CIC Calls:

     Second Thursday: Cancer Interoperability – All things Cancer (plus Pain)

     Fourth Thursdays: All things Registries & HRex, VANGUARD

CA Interoperability:

     Every Wednesday: 2:00-3:00 p.m. EST

HRex: In STU phase; no present calls.

mCODE: (Cancer Interoperability Calls - Wednesday 2-3 PM EST)

Agenda Topics

Agenda Item

 Discussion and Responsibilities

Minutes and Decisions 
 Minutes Approval (3 minutes)

Request to approve by consensus. 

Today's Update: 

2021-02-25 CIC Conference Call

No objections: Approved by consensus

Administrative: Review of Agenda/Key HL7 Deadlines/Business Tasks

  • May 24-28, 2021 WGM
  • May 2021 FHIR Connectathon

All HL7 Calendars (Confluence) 

New "HL7 Essentials" Confluence Page

(5 minutes)

Reminder New CIC Meeting Structure 

  • Second Thursday: Cancer Interoperability – All things Cancer (plus Pain).
  • Fourth Thursday: All things Registries & HRex, VANGUARD

Today's Update:  

Will target these dates for the topics, but will be flexible as needed for project deadlines.

Working group proposed agenda discussed:

Past Update

Next May 24-28, 2021 WGM CIC Agenda: 2021 May WGM Virtual 

Project Proposals & Retiring Standards (8 minutes)

Discuss active Project Proposals and Project Scope Statements (PSS)

Vulcan: Vulcan - RWD for Regulator Submissions IG

PSS-1725 - Getting issue details... STATUS   

Reaffirmation of HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide for CDA Release 2 - Level 3: Emergency Medical Services; Patient Care Report, Release 2 - US Realm

(Jay Lyle Lindsey Hoggle)

Today's Update: CIC agreed to co-sponsor PSS-1725 . Russell Leftwich reminded us to set our level of involvement when the PSS is distributed.

EMS Patient Care Report - expiration date imminent. Placing reaffirmation on May Ballot. This is a lesson for us to monitor and reaffirm ANSI specification

Past Update:

Our request for the Vulcan project to have CIC as a sponsor was rejected.  No enthusiasm to challenge it from CIC.  Will ask for the highest level of involvement from any project CIC co-sponsors.  When we co-sponsor we want to be engaged as possible.

CIC previously voted to withdraw this CDA IG.  Jay has indicated the team wants to keep working on it.  Discussion ongoing at this point.  The withdraw request might become a publication request.... Will need to go through a reaffirmation ballot (with errata).  Motion made by Laura to allow Jay to work with NEMSIS to work through a reaffirmation ballot through this calendar year and if unable to get it done re-evaluate the status.  2nd - by JMcClay.  Abstain = 1, Oppose = 0, Approve = 6.  Lindsey will reach out to Jay and report back to us.

Creation of Project Proposal

Today's Update: CIC as Sponsor needs to create a Project Proposal. 

Lindsey Hoggle informed us there is a link this on the sponsored projects area of the CIC Confluence site. We reviewed and discussed the new project proposal form on the Projects Proposal Space on Confluence. Completed forms are provided for comment for 2 weeks. This then becomes PSS which is circulated for voting.

Noted project proposal form does not contain facilitators.

Keith W. Boone will coordinate drafting the PSS with Jimmy Tchenge. The links on left are funding the effort. The project will be general and not disease specific. Avoid an IG focused on a specific disease registry. Develop a standard for creating a registry specification.

DSTU due in 1.5 years.

mCODE Block Vote

Approve Block Vote

Mark Kramer led discussion. 6-7 issues to review (see spreadsheet). JIRA Issues List.

Action: Motion to approve block vote Russell Leftwich ; second May Terry 

Vote: 1 Abstain: 5 approve.

Second Thursday: Cancer Interoperability and Pain Project  

Cancer Interoperability 

mCODE (May Terry)  Mark Kramer

Target Dates:    

Normative ballot: Jan 2022   

Publication Request: Feb 2022   

Receive ANSI approval/Project end: April 2022

CA Interoperability (Breast CA Radiology)

Todays Update:

Moving to ballot in May. NIB approved.

Discussion and Demonstration by Mark Kramer

See draft FHIR IG minimal common oncology data elements Implementation Guide.

Discussion of how to make review process more clinician friendly.

Pain Assessment Project

Pain Assessment Project (Susan Matney)

Today's Update:

For clarification, Skin and Wound Project is sponsored by Patient Care; CIC is a co-sponsor. (Susan not on call - no further discussion)

Past Update:

Co-sponsored ProjectsPediatric Care Health IT Functional Profile

Invite members to participate in project.

Today's Update:

We are invited to participate. Russ points out we don't have a core group of people.

Next Meetings
  • Thursday, March 25 (fourth Thursdays): All things Registries & HRex, VANGUARD
  • Thursday, April 8, 2021 (second Thursdays): Cancer Interoperability – All things Cancer (plus Pain)

Adjournment  Adjourned at   Adjourned at 1:45 CT





XHealth Project Partners 

James TchengDuke


Enable Care



JP Systems

XPJM Consulting


Stratametrics, LLC



@Paul SevilleCerner


@Anita WaldenOHSU

Kevin Baskin
      @Karen Thullen

XKeith W. Boone

@Michelle BarryDa Vinci

Timothy Bennett

Linda Chen 

Christina CaraballoAudacious Inquiry