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Chair: Lindsey Hoggle

Scribe: Laura Heermann-Langford

Standing CIC and Project Calls

Topic: CIC Fourth Thursday Call

Time: Feb 25, 2021 02:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

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Regular CIC Calls:

     Second & Fourth Thursdays: 2:00-3:00 p.m. EST

CA Interoperability:

     Every Wednesday: 2:00-3:00 p.m. EST

HRex: In STU phase; no present calls.

mCODE: (Cancer Interoperability Calls - Wednesday 2-3 PM EST)


Third Thursdays: 2:00-3:00 p.m. EST

Agenda Topics

Agenda Item

 Discussion and Responsibilities

Minutes and Decisions 
 Minutes Approval (3 minutes)

Request to approve by consensus. 

Today's Update: 

2021-02-11 CIC Conference Call

2021-1-14 CIC Conference Call

CIC September 29 (Wednesday) Q2 WGM Minutes

CIC September 29 (Wednesday) Q1 WGM Minutes

CIC September 29 (Wednesday) Q4 WGM Minutes

CIC September 30 (Thursday) Q1 WGM Minutes

All minutes approved via consensus

Administrative: Review of Agenda/Key HL7 Deadlines/Business Tasks

  • March 7, 2021 NIB Deadline for May WGM
  • May 24-28, 2021 WGM
  • May 2021 FHIR Connectathon

All HL7 Calendars (Confluence) 

New "HL7 Essentials" Confluence Page

(5 minutes)

Proposed New CIC Meeting Structure (Russell Leftwich)

  • Project Clusters for each call: 
  • Second Thursday: Cancer Interoperability – All things Cancer (plus Pain).
  • Fourth Thursday: All things Registries & HRex, VANGUARD

Next May 24-28, 2021 WGM Agenda Planning: on UTC time: 2021 May WGM Virtual 

  • Q1: 5 AM EST / 2 AM PST
  • Q2: 7 AM EST/4 AM PST
  • Q3: 9 AM EST/6 AM PST
  • Q4: 11 AM EST/8 AM PST

Today's Update:  

Will target these dates for the topics, but will be flexible as needed for project deadlines.

WGM schedule looks ok.  Lindsey will be sure the requests are submitted by tomorrows deadlines.

Past Update

Defer to 2/25/2021 conference call.

Project Proposals & Retiring Standards (8 minutes)

Brief review of Project Proposal Process

(Lindsey Hoggle)

Discuss active Project Proposals and Project Scope Statements (PSS)

Vulcan: Vulcan - RWD for Regulator Submissions IG

PSS-1725 - Getting issue details... STATUS   (Due 2/22/2021)

Withdrawal of HL7 Version 3 Implementation Guide for CDA Release 2 - Level 3: Emergency Medical Services; Patient Care Report, Release 2 - US Realm

(Jay Lyle Lindsey Hoggle)

Today's Update:  

Our request for the Vulcan project to have CIC as a sponsor was rejected.  No enthusiasm to challenge it from CIC.  Will ask for the highest level of involvement from any project CIC co-sponsors.  When we co-sponsor we want to be engaged as possible.

CIC previously voted to withdraw this CDA IG.  Jay has indicated the team wants to keep working on it.  Discussion ongoing at this point.  The withdraw request might become a publication request.... Will need to go through a reaffirmation ballot (with errata).  Motion made by Laura to allow Jay to work with NEMSIS to work through a reaffirmation ballot through this calendar year and if unable to get it done re-evaluate the status.  2nd - by JMcClay.  Abstain = 1, Oppose = 0, Approve = 6.  Lindsey will reach out to Jay and report back to us.

Discussion on Cardiology Registry

Cardiology Registry Discussion (Keith W. Boone @ Jimmy Tcheng)

Keith and Jimmy have met re: this topic.  Would like to create the FHIR IG framework for Registry submissions.  There is funding and interest at Audacious Inquiry to complete this work.  PSS is in early stages of drafting.  ASK:  is CIC interested in sponsoring this project?  Motion made to go forward with this project with CIC as the intended sponsoring workgroup through the Project Proposal and drafting the PSS made by Keith, 2nd by Russ - Abstain = 0, oppose = 0, Approve = 6.

Keith will come back to the next meeting 2nd week of March with more materials for review. 

Project Report-outs 

(8 minutes)

mCODE (May Terry)  Mark Kramer

Target Dates:    

Normative ballot: Jan 2022   

Publication Request: Feb 2022   

Receive ANSI approval/Project end: April 2022

Todays Update:

Approve NIB for May 2021 Ballot: 

NIB reviewed, updated, voted and approved. Motion made by Laura, 2nd by Keith B.

Abstain = 0, Oppose = 0, Approve= 6

Past Update: Report out at January WGM

  • mCODE Report Out
  • CodeX Report Out
(8 minutes)

VANGUARD (Stan Huff Richard R. Esmond Julia Skapik Kevin M. Baskin Marti Velezis)

Target Dates:

Informative: N/A
STU: Jan 2021
Normative: Sept 2022

Today's Update:

Past Update: 

VANGUARD Update by Marti Velezis at January WGM

(8 minutes)

CCRF (@Jimmy Tcheng)

Today's Update:

Publication in December, CCRF V2 is stable product in Standards Grid.

Past Update: 

 Successful publication of the following:

  • HL7 DAM Common Clinical Research Format (CCRF)

(8 minutes)

Cancer Interoperability 

(8 minutes)

HRex (Da Vinci)

Target Dates

STU2 Period Jan 2020-Jan 2021

(8 minutes)

Pain Assessment Project (Susan Matney)

Today's Update:

For clarification, Skin and Wound Project is sponsored by Patient Care; CIC is a co-sponsor.

Past Update:

Next Meetings
  • Thursday, March 11
  • Thursday, March 25

Adjournment  Adjourned at   





XHealth Project Partners 
XJames TchengDuke


Enable Care



JP Systems

PJM Consulting



Stratametrics, LLC



@Paul SevilleCerner


@Anita WaldenOHSU

Kevin Baskin
      @Karen Thullen

XKeith W. Boone

@Michelle BarryDa Vinci

Timothy Bennett

Linda Chen 

Christina CaraballoAudacious Inquiry

Supporting Documents

Outline Reference

Supporting Document

Minute Approval