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Chair: Laura Heermann-Langford

Scribe: Lindsey Hoggle


Meeting ID: 803 356 1462

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XHealth Project Partners 



Enable Care



JP Systems

PJM Consulting


Stratametrics, LLC

Caroline Potteiger


@Paul SevilleCerner


@Anita WaldenOHSU

@James Tcheng

XKevin Baskin
      @Karen Thullen
      Gary Dickinson
     Susan Matney
     John Donnelly
      XMichelle Barry
      X@Jim McClay

Agenda Topics

Agenda Item

 Discussion and Responsibilities

Minutes and Decision Link
 Minutes Approval (3 minutes)

Request to approve by consensus. 

2020-10-22 CIC Conference Call

Minutes approved by consensus. 

Review of Agenda/Key HL7 Deadlines/Business Tasks

2020 Schedule/Calendar

All HL7 Calendars (Confluence) 

(10 minutes)

  • STUs Expiring in the Next 6 Months

  • Upcoming PSS and NIB Deadline Dates for Future Ballot Cycles

(All deadline dates can be seen on the new Balloting, Content Submission, Voting, and Working Group Meeting Schedules on Confluence at:

Today's Update: 

Past Update:

HL7 Glossary of Terms:  Review for new FHIR related terms and terms that need to be deprecated as no longer in use. 

Would like to have a utilization counter added to the document to know if it is worth the effort to maintain. 

Review of the ANSI Standards approaching expiration - there are two of interest to CIC. 

Emergency Services one and Trauma registry one.  Will need to ask the stake holders if they should be reaffirmed.

Ask AMS about these two - believe he was the author. 

Project Report-outs 

(10 minutes)

mCODE (May Terry)  Mark Kramer

Target Dates:    

Normative ballot: Jan 2022   

Publication Request: Feb 2022   

Receive ANSI approval/Project end: April 2022

Todays Update:

CODEX is taking the lead on Cancer Interoperability; need a WG, likely to be Public Health.  Expect more than one WG.  CIC supports the work re: bandwidth for work necessary.  Nothing has yet been decided but glad to discuss with Public Health.  

Past Update: 

no one available to report today.

Confirm May 2021 for STU ballot vs Target Dates from PSS.

(10 minutes)

VANGUARD (Stan Huff Richard R. Esmond Julia Skapik Kevin Baskin) (Marti Velezis)

Target Dates:

Informative: N/A
STU: Jan 2021
Normative: Sept 2022

Today's Update:

Kevin - planning terminology development based upon the projects involved in.  They are working on a Roadmap for the vocabulary work to give group a better sense of work underway.  Question: Logica - discussions on a need for a repository so domains could keep their data to prevent overlap.  Logica is interested in Logica domains and FHIR Profiles; other discussions on where to have FHIR Profiles repository.

Work underway on anatomic nomenclature will intersect many areas; would like to collaborate on this. 

Question on Sandboxes: they are doing retrospective queries on codes. Would like a place to test queries and moving forward testing.  

Through MDEpiNet, planning a Think Tank Sessions, two of them which will likely begin in February 2021: coordinated needs of the community for interoperability and practical resources which can be used across the community; would like to include CIC.  CIC Contact: Kevin M. Baskin

Past Update: 

NIB date has been pushed to 11/8. 

NIB target date now for the May ballot is March 7, 2021

Meeting schedule 10/27 to meet with Stan/Susan regarding value sets/terminology questions.

No other updates.  Project progressing.

May not meet Jan 2021 ballot; move it to May 2021.  Update on fourth Thursday.

(10 minutes)

Complete STU1 Reconciliation /Request Publication:  Jan 2020 WGM

Submit for STU2 Ballot: Sep 2020

Complete STU2 Reconciliation/Request Publication:  Jan 2021 WGM

Today's Update:

Past Update: 

no one available for report

(10 minutes)

CCRF (Anita Walden @Jimmy Tcheng)

Today's Update:

Lindsey and Laura are working with Anita/AbdulMalik

Past Update: 

There was a mix up on calendaring/ meeting announcement for a meeting yesterday.  We think there may have been a short meeting but many were not available.  Will need to get a report from Anita. 

(10 minutes)

Pain Assessment Project (Susan Matney)

Skin and Wound Project (Susan Matney)

Today's Update:

Susan not available for update; limited amount of work underway. 

Past Update:

no one available to report today. 

Nursing Knowledge Big Data Initiative; FHIR R4 IG complete.

Podiatry Work Plan to achieve January ballot 2021; is not full ballot. 

Pain Assessment:  Susan has many vendors to standardize it to use it.  Cannot go to ballot until there is a Connectathon.  FHIR Profiles are to be completed by October 30, 2020. 

CIC needs clarifications on Pain Assessment Work. 

Unclear on Connectathon. Excellent Pain Assessment.  They have 8-10 Patient Scales that are in LOINC.  Need to determine if FHIR work is only the area that Pain Assessment can be published. Podiatry wants to implement it in their systems, which does not involve FHIR.

U.S. CDI R2 ReviewUSCDI ONDEC Recommendations from CIC (Sept 2020)  

Today's Update:

CCRF submitted content and it is now on ONC website.  Missing content on vaping, which will need to be completed in the future.

Jim McClay: Gravity call - may be looking at cross work of vaping. 

USCDI: Craig/PHWG: data elements related to pregnancy for submission.  Talking to CDC and request comments on any content related to pregnancy.   Contact Craig Newmanon pregnancy related terms used that can be used.

Past Update:

Deadline was extended. 

Anita sent it in to ONC through another channel then HL7.

Next Meetings

Thursday, November 12th:  2-3 PM EST

Thursday, November 24th: 2-3 PM EST

Have invited the CDA group to attend a meeting for CDA review requested.
Adjournment  Adjourned at  11:28 a.m. EST

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Minute Approval