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Health Project Partners 


Enable Care



JP Systems

PJM Consulting


Stratametrics, LLC

Caroline Potteiger


@Paul SevilleCerner


@Anita WaldenOHSU

@James Tcheng

Kevin Baskin
      @Karen Thullen
      Gary Dickinson
     Susan Matney
     John Donnelly

Agenda Topics

Agenda Item

 Discussion and Responsibilities

Minutes and Decision LinkAction Items
 Minutes Approval (3 minutes)

Request to approve by consensus. 

2020-10-8 CIC Conference Call

minutes approved by consensus. 

Motion by Russ, 2nd by Marti.

Review of Agenda/Key HL7 Deadlines/Business Tasks

2020 Schedule/Calendar

All HL7 Calendars (Confluence) 

(10 minutes)

  • STUs Expiring in the Next 6 Months

  • Upcoming PSS and NIB Deadline Dates for Future Ballot Cycles

(All deadline dates can be seen on the new Balloting, Content Submission, Voting, and Working Group Meeting Schedules on Confluence at:

HL7 Glossary of Terms:  Review for new FHIR related terms and terms that need to be deprecated as no longer in use. 

Would like to have a utilization counter added to the document to know if it is worth the effort to maintain. 

Review of the ANSI Standards approaching expiration - there are two of interest to CIC. 

Emergency Services one and Trauma registry one.  Will need to ask the stake holders if they should be reaffirmed.

Ask AMS about these two - believe he was the author. 

Project Report-outs 

(10 minutes)

mCODE (May Terry)  Mark Kramer

Target Dates:    

Normative ballot: Jan 2022   

Publication Request: Feb 2022   

Receive ANSI approval/Project end: April 2022

Todays Update:

Past Update: 

Confirm May 2021 for STU ballot vs Target Dates from PSS.

no one available to report today.

(10 minutes)

VANGUARD (Stan Huff Richard R. Esmond Julia Skapik Kevin Baskin) (Marti Velezis)

Target Dates:

Informative: N/A
STU: Jan 2021
Normative: Sept 2022

Today's Update:

Past Update:  May not meet Jan 2021 ballot; move it to May 2021.  UPdate on fourth Thursday.

NIB date has been pushed to 11/8. 

NIB target date now for the May ballot is March 7, 2021

Meeting schedule 10/27 to meet with Stan/Susan regarding value sets/terminology questions.

No other updates.  Project progressing.

(10 minutes)

Complete STU1 Reconciliation /Request Publication:  Jan 2020 WGM

Submit for STU2 Ballot: Sep 2020

Complete STU2 Reconciliation/Request Publication:  Jan 2021 WGM

Today's Update:

Past Update:  Ballot 110 issues 

Preliminary Triage - about half could address immediately (typos, etc.) Block vote pending.

Working through the other issues on project conference calls. Concerns of policy; decision tree, scope. All in-person resolutions soon. 

Not sure of conversations on calls for 60+ issues. May be able to get Publication Request in by end of year.  As a foundational IG, desire to complete as soon as possible, but no official deadline.

Da Vinci HRex 0.2.0 STU 1 2nd Ballot

no one available for report
(10 minutes)

CCRF (Anita Walden @Jimmy Tcheng)

Today's Update:

Past Update: 

there was a mix up on calendaring/ meeting announcement for a meeting yesterday.  We think there may have been a short meeting but many were not available.  Will need to get a report from Anita. 

(10 minutes)

Pain Assessment Project (Susan Matney)

Skin and Wound Project (Susan Matney)

Today's Update:

Past Update:

Nursing Knowledge Big Data Initiative; FHIR R4 IG complete.

Podiatry Work Plan to achieve January ballot 2021; is not full ballot. 

Pain Assessment:  Susan has many vendors to standardize it to use it.  Cannot go to ballot until there is a Connectathon.  FHIR Profiles are to be completed by October 30, 2020. 

CIC needs clarifications on Pain Assessment Work. 

Unclear on Connectathon. Excellent Pain Assessment.  They have 8-10 Patient Scales that are in LOINC.  Need to determine if FHIR work is only the area that Pain Assessment can be published. Podiatry wants to implement it in their systems, which does not involve FHIR.

no one available to report today. 
U.S. CDI R2 ReviewUSCDI ONDEC Recommendations from CIC (Sept 2020)  

Today's Update

Past Update: No recommendations sent to HL7.

New deadline for PAC is October 13/ONC deadline is October 23.

Will check with Anita for tobacco terms.

Deadline was extended. 

Anita sent it in to ONC through another channel then HL7.

Next Meetings

Thursday, November 12th:  2-3 PM EST

Thursday, November 24th: 2-3 PM EST

Have invited the CDA group to attend the meeting on Nov 12th to do the CDA review requested.
Adjournment  Adjourned at  1455 p.m. EST

Supporting Documents

Outline Reference

Supporting Document

Minute Approval