HL7 Clinical Genomics Weekly Call - Oct 3, 2023 11:00 AM (US Eastern)
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Minutes
Attending the meeting
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2980068716?pwd=eG9VOXdjTU43VGpJVGNNNGtqbW1qQT09
Meeting ID: 298 006 8716 // Passcode: 2020
Agenda
Attendees Sign-in
Presiding Co-Chair (Kevin Power - CMH - kmpower@cmh.edu )
- JD Nolen - CMH - jlnolen@cmh.edu
- Soyean Kim CIDGOH SFU ska8@sfu.ca
- Raja Kathirvel - Philips - raja.kathirvel@philips.com
- Willie Chang - Epic - willie@epic.com
- Bob Dolin - Elimu - bdolin@elimu.io
- Joel Schneider - NMDP/CIBMTR - jschneid@nmdp.org
- Patrick McCormick - IMO - pmccormick@imohealth.com
- Aly Khalifa - Mayo Clinic - khalifa.aly@mayo.edu
Agendas and Important Dates
https://confluence.hl7.org/display/HL7/2024+January+Cycle
CG Call Date | Co-Chair | Agenda https://confluence.hl7.org/display/CGW/Future+Topics+for+Weekly+Meetings | Important Dates |
26-Sep-23 | Kevin | Review and approve WGM minutes (Kevin) Review draft of ‘somatic guidance’ (Srikar) | |
3-Oct-23 | Patrick | Block Vote (Kevin) Review draft of ‘somatic guidance’ (Srikar) | |
10-Oct-23 | Kevin | Review Connectathon Proposals and ideas | |
17-Oct-23 | Patrick | Review of pathogen genomics (Soyean) Update on current connectathon proposal | |
24-Oct-23 | |||
31-Oct-23 | May | Review and vote on NIB (Kevin) | |
7-Nov-23 | Kevin | Connectathon Track Proposal Review | Nov 12 - NIB deadline |
14-Nov-23 | November 17 - 2024JAN FHIR Connectathon Proposals Due | ||
21-Nov-23 | Kevin | ||
28-Nov-23 | May | ||
5-Dec-23 | Kevin | Dec 5 - Content freeze (STU3 IG) | |
12-Dec-23 | May | ||
19-Dec-23 | Kevin | Dec 19 - Content QA complete | |
26-Dec-23 | Dec 22 - Ballot opens | ||
2-Jan-24 | |||
9-Jan-24 | |||
16-Jan-24 | HL7 FHIR Connectathon Jan 16, 2024 to Jan 18, 2024 - Online/Virtual | ||
23-Jan-24 | |||
January Working Group Meeting Jan 29, 2024 to Feb 2, 2024 - Virtual Event |
Subgroup reports
- Information Modeling (IM) (Bob F)
- Minutes:
- HL7 CG Information Modeling - Minutes for Oct 2019 to Jan 2020+
- Several weeks off .. will bring back more discussion next time
- FHIR (Jamie)
- Minutes:
- FHIR SubGroup Meetings Doc
- tinyurl.com/fhirgenomics
- Review of biomarker proposal
- OO Work (JD)
- https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-22147 - Should a reference to device be added as a performer for both Observation and DiagnosticReport
- More chatter on the above: https://confluence.hl7.org/display/OO/2023-10-16+OO+-+Specimen
- https://jira.hl7.org/browse/FHIR-24863 Ok to reject?
- IG Maturity (Bret H)
- https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179197-genomics/topic/Maturity.20group
- First meeting held, updating proposed plan. Next step is review within subgroup and finalize. Then there will be a request to present to WG.
Topic 0: Approval of Minutes from Last Meeting
"You have received the minutes. Are there any corrections to the minutes? (pause) Hearing none, if there are no objections, the minutes are approved"
- Minutes are Approved
Topic 1: Review of pathogen genomics (Soyean)
<presentation from Soyean>
Will have a focus on Data Model in FHIR (with overview of terminology and logic)
Two use cases:
- Clinical
- Patient -> order phenotypic drug susceptibility test -> Obs/Diag Report/Med recommendations
- Might trigger a WGS test in some cases
- Population Health
- Clinical testing might trigger population health monitoring use case -> additional observations/Diag Report/MolSeq (raw and assembly)
Bob D: diff between raw sequence versus assembly?
Soyean: raw is reads, assembly is more refined
Question is more about how resources are related
Bob D: how big will the MolSeq be?
Soyean: 4.5mb
Kevin:
Usually, DiagRpt points to Observation via .result()
Aly:
Emerging work
Soyean:
Sounds like work will be based on R4
Topic 2: Discuss Jan 2024 Connectathon
Picture from Bob D:
Operations would be used to read and access VCF data, App could use EHR for clinical data via FHIR queries and GACS for genomic data via Genomic Operations.
Draft of Connectathon
Willie: GenomeX isn’t focused on the VCF for now
Kevin: Is this an interest for now?
Willie: Yes, but not sure about availability right now.
Bob D: Define the big picture for now and work on smaller pieces in a connectathon. Might get valuable insights.
Kevin: Seems like this is a good ‘big picture’, need to define the smaller slice for connectathon
Bob D: the link above still needs some refinement.
CHAT:
Aly Khalifa to Everyone (Oct 17, 2023, 10:31 AM)
https://build.fhir.org/branches/cg-im-molseq-work_in_progress_2/observation.html
Obs.valueReference
https://build.fhir.org/branches/cg-im-molseq-work_in_progress_2/molecularsequence.html
work in progress
+1
https://hl7.org/fhir/R4/molecularsequence.html
R4: Obs.derivedFrom
Bob Dolin to Everyone (Oct 17, 2023, 10:36 AM)
http://hl7.org/fhir/uv/genomics-reporting/histocompatibility.html
Helpful info
Vote template
Vote: <describe the motion here>
Mover/Seconder: <makes the motion/second:: Name1/Name 2>
Discussion: <ask for and document discussions>
For-Against-Abstain – <document vote: X-Y-Z>
Motion <passes/fails>
chat.fhir.org (zulip) comments
- Genomics
- If you would like to bring up a topic for discussion, Zulip is the platform and the stream is genomics - https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/179197-genomics
Future proposed agenda topics/requests
- WG members: please use this section to request topics to cover on our WG calls
https://confluence.hl7.org/display/CGW/Future+Topics+for+Weekly+Meetings Needs review/clean up
Jira for change requests
- If you like to open a ticket, Jira is the platform - https://jira.hl7.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12002
External efforts (updates welcome)
- GenomeX/CodeX Accelerator (hosted through CodeX) (Arthur Hermann)
- Arthur to provide updates as needed https://confluence.hl7.org/display/COD/Genomics
- GA4GH (Global Alliance for Genomics and Health)
- Genomic Knowledge Standards (GKS) Work Stream (leads: Bob Freimuth, Andy Yates)
- Variant Representation subgroup (lead by Larry Babb/Alex Wagner)
- See ongoing project board at https://github.com/orgs/ga4gh/projects/5
- VRS 1.3 (structural variation) anticipated by Dec 2021
- Variant Annotation subgroup (lead by Matt Brush and Javi Lopez)
- Working on statements about therapeutic interventions and variant pathogenicity
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zQU-Yv7gB7IHKIOVsTh-74BwdtgB9KQpKcWkSHZOa-Q/edit
- V0 release: 4 core substatement types + generalized model
- Due "soon"
- Sequence Annotation subgroup (lead by Karen Eilbeck and Shawn Rynearson)
- Clinical & Phenotypic Data Capture Work Stream
- Pedigree Activity (Grant Wood)
- help GA4GH community to understand HL7 Pedigree standards
- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AxRufaSICADO_f9CAhbkVh5dChT4FjHZgvGFFdC-2WI/edit
- Phenopackets
- Under continuous development
- Currently going through the ISO
- G2MC (Grant Wood)
- Looking to develop AI tool for literature review for poly-genetic risk, generate guidance
- Create KB on G2MC website
- ClinGen/ClinVar (Larry Babb)
- Data Exchange/Platform WG, major driver project of GA4GH GKS
- will discuss further when Larry in on a call
- ONC Sync for Genes (Bob Freimuth)
- ONC website: https://www.healthit.gov/topic/sync-genes
- Phase 5 briefing from Bob Dolin here.
- ISO TC/215 Genomics Subcommittee (Liz, Clem, Bob F)
- Canada is sponsoring a phenopackets spec in ISO, will be based on the GA4GH spec that was approved fall 2019
- The technical experts group just convened to work on this (mid Aug)
- Since Phenopackets is implementing the GA4GH VR spec, which we are attempting to keep aligned with the CG IM, this work will be of interest to the CG WG
- Arthur to review for other standards that might overlap with CG
- Bob M / Bob F: Liaison through HL7
- Cannot share documents, but we can talk about them
- mCODE (May Terry)
- mCODE STU3 passed ballot approval. Currently in reconciliation with publication ETA in Sept 2023.